Thread: New/ old pond installation

Originally Posted by JazzaM

Just had a look at Burtons, just for the idiot in me, what's the difference between their drum filter and the through flow filter ?

New to me, not sure what the differences are?!


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The through flow has more inlets/ outlets on the side, and is about 300 quid more so it must offer something else, also the price is quite high so I'm sure there will be other options

Originally Posted by JazzaM

The through flow has more inlets/ outlets on the side, and is about 300 quid more so it must offer something else, also the price is quite high so I'm sure there will be other options

Watched this last night, looks like the newer version of mine. Think they look really solid for the money https://youtu.be/YJry0Q52MEE?si=zTVffGIqNB1ixFsS


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I'm looking ,,, the bio drum 60 at £500 quid more, it doesn't hurt if you say it quick
What I'm thinking is maybe 2 smaller drums rather than 1, and having at least some backup if one goes down,
Realistically, lets say I go for the bio drum 60 and it fails, how long have I got before the worst happens, and what's the minimum backup when that happens, so as I've got the multibay, could I use that as a temporary measure until the filter is up and running ?

The multibay is the largest that Kockney koi do i think, 2200mm long x 800mm wide plus the vortex, plenty of room for a floating bed, (if it can be used for that), and also maybe with a bit of re-configuration, an emergency filter ??

Lots to consider mate, I personally kept mine simple as possible as more going on more thing to fail in my eyes, why Iv been looking back at the Nexus’ recently


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I've been looking at things again, given the great advise you guys have provided, thanks everyone,

We really like the pond shape so I don't want to go too far from that.
I also am under orders that the bridge needs to stay so that may create a bit of a problem with flow, and also because we will be raising the pond by around 600mm out of the ground.

I'm thinking that if I extend to 6m long x 4m wide x 1.2 deep at the sides, 1.4m deep ?, in the centre where the drain will go, on an elliptical that equals roughly 27000ltrs
plus the bit the other side of the bridge 3m x 2.5m x 1.2m deep, again elliptical in shape equals 8200ltrs, this has the waterfall into it
not forgetting the bit under the bridge which is 1.4m x 0.8m x 1.2m equals 1200ltrs

I get the total to around 36000 litres, or 7918 gallons, I could maybe creep it down a bit more to get it under 30000 if that makes a big difference on the overall costs of the build and keeping the maintenance/ running costs down.

So now I'm thinking about the drum filter,
I've just looked at an Aqua forte one which states flow rates of 5500 gallons per hour, (does this relate to the size of the pond ?)
If it does, at £1100 quid I could put 2 in servicing the different areas of the pond.

Or Filtreau Excellent 35 at £3360 which will do 50 m³, (again not sure what this equates to for litres)
Or would I be better served going for something like the Oase proficlear which at £4500 is much more expensive but will do 35000ltrs
Or Burtons TF 500 at £3375 for the through flow version which will do 55000 litres per hour

Once the drum filter is in place what's the best way to use my muti bay for the media ??

Your thoughts please ????

So,
The plot thickens,,,,,
We have another possibility for the pond site, photos attached, I think ?

This is the kids play area but they don't like it because it's too closed in with the trees.
The area is huge so gives me room for a pond and filter house, also because the sleepers are already 600mm off the floor there should be less build up/ dig out.

Questions will follow

Great stuff! Looks like a nice area. One thing to consider is keeping the pond out of direct sun, and one thing I wished I did was have more returns pushing crap to the bottom drain.


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When you say returns, are we talking about slanting the bottom of the pond ?
The new site will be better with regards to sunlight

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Sorry, I'm just looking it up now, so the returns are from the filter back to the pond.
Would they be best to be built in as the walls.go up so you get more flow lower down ?
Lots to learn

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Originally Posted by JazzaM

Sorry, I'm just looking it up now, so the returns are from the filter back to the pond.
Would they be best to be built in as the walls.go up so you get more flow lower down ?
Lots to learn

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Yep my main issue is crud on the bottom not making it down the drain on the outer perimeters, wish I put in maybe 2 more lower pointing at the bottom each end to force crap down the drain. Although it’s a lot more pipework and hassle. Also good to over spec on pump like double, great to turn it up to max and it seems to clear lots of crap out of the lines and help clear the bottom a bit.


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There's an Oase proficlear premium compact and compact classic, second hand, going on ebay at the moment for 1500 quid, I think it's a medium so should be able to do 80 cubic meters, according to the manufacturers,
I'm going to be a while now sorting out moving the kids bits around and setting up the new pond area but if I kept the size down to 40000 litres would something like this cope with the size of the pond ?

Not sure if the pic has been attached, but this is what we are thinking of, should give us a pond size of around 6.7m long x 4.8m wide in a curved shape, 2 bottom drains, 1.2m deep, 1.5m at the drains.
The top of the pond will be approximately 0.9m above ground, can this be done a standard 100mm brick outside, 100mm insulated cavity 100mm block inside ?
The size of the pond is approximate but I think it should give me around 30-35000ltrs

Alburgler,

If you don't mind me asking, what made you go for the Anoxic filtration ? I've just been reading up on it via Manky Sanky.

I would have the room for the separate pond and I like the idea so what would you say are the added benefits, have you noticed improved health ?

Did you post a pond build so I can have a look to see if it would work for me ?