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    Noobi

    Hi Guys and Guyettes
    Seasons Greetings
    I'm Chris ! MOGn ( miserable Old Git) new to Koi and tg this forum. I hope ican pick some brains on setting up a 7000 gal Koi pond for the first time.
    Im looking at 2 bottom drains feeding 2 ea K+ bead filters ( 24" raited at 8000 gal each ) both returning via a blade fall. seperate skimmer line and using air source heat pump to bring temp up
    Can anyone see any problems with this
    Many thanks
    Chris



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    That's a Biggie!
    I'd consider swapping one of those beads out for a Nexus or shower or drum.

    Beads like flow too, so probably better off on the skimmer line, rather than the bottom drain.

    You might want to turn your blade off in the winter so I'd consider some pond returns.
    2660 Gallons. 4" Bottom Drain and Skimmer. Draco Solum 16 Drum. Anoxic Filtration. Air lift returns.

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    hi
    i agree regards blades. my new pond was finished last week with two blades but neither are running as already said they cool the water.

    keith

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    [QUOTE=Alburglar;427392]That's a Biggie!
    I'd consider swapping one of those beads out for a Nexus or shower or drum.

    Beads like flow too, so probably better off on the skimmer line, rather than the bottom drain.

    You might want to turn your blade off in the winter so I'd consider some pond returns.[/QUOTE


    I did look at Nexus320 but found they were to big and unsightly for my pond LOL Beads are much smaller thats why i like them. great idea to include returns without blade. Re Drum filter i would love one but far to expensive for my pockets right now mayby something for the future

    Thanks for the info
    Chris

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    IMO Bead filters are not suitable on their own without separating the solids out first, they're going to block with shyte and need cleaning far too often. Ideal to run a drum then bead/s, and consider return to pond via a bakki shower.

    Doing it right first time will save money and work in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiOgon View Post
    IMO Bead filters are not suitable on their own without separating the solids out first, they're going to block with shyte and need cleaning far too often. Ideal to run a drum then bead/s, and consider return to pond via a bakki shower.

    Doing it right first time will save money and work in the long run.
    Amen to that.
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    Hi Guys
    Thanks for all the advise ! looked at Drum filters but to expensive for me right now
    So a change of plan to get this project started. going to reduce the pond size to a 3m x 3m x 2 m deep puddle calc 3960 gal from 18m3 LOL all underground with 4 inch insulation, 1 x 4" bottom drain, feeding EA Sieve for mech filtration , going into an EA 30 bead for biological, 110w UV and then through a 7 kw air source heat pump set to 20 deg to grow on the smaller fish i have ordered. returning to pond middle/ bottom. Skimmer pumping to blade
    Opinions welcome
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    Sounds more sensible.
    Sieve and bead is better. Ideally sieve, bead and nexus, if you are going down that route. If you are economising, using the broadest sense of the word,. I'd go no more than 3000 gallons (one bottom drain) and nexus only.
    Leave some contingency to add the bead to the skimmer line, when funds allow.

    Have a look at the Quality Nishikigoi YouTube channel. He builds loads of ponds based on that principle.

    You won't need the insulation if you're below ground.
    If cost is an issue, that will help.
    Last edited by Alburglar; 31-12-2024 at 02:02 PM.
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    Welcome and good luck with your build.

 

 

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