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    Veriflow Pumps

    Which veriflow pumps does everyone recommend?

    Im considering either ea or pond expert 10000 but seeing mixed reviews about all the veriflows



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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    Which veriflow pumps does everyone recommend?

    Im considering either ea or pond expert 10000 but seeing mixed reviews about all the veriflows
    I had 3 EA 10k's on mine, they were okay, didn't last a very long time though, as 2 of them have died I upgraded them to EA 30k just in case they died as I ran them quite high, the main reason I stuck with EA as the swaps kept the pipework pretty much the same.

    I do mean to fix the 10ks's and keep as spares but have not got around to it, I did use a casing front on my last 10k that split.... so get from this what you like, 2 dead 10k's and the third split case in I'd say 3.5 years the first one went, pond is now circa 5 years old

    Not certain how this compares to others

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbs View Post
    I had 3 EA 10k's on mine, they were okay, didn't last a very long time though, as 2 of them have died I upgraded them to EA 30k just in case they died as I ran them quite high, the main reason I stuck with EA as the swaps kept the pipework pretty much the same.

    I do mean to fix the 10ks's and keep as spares but have not got around to it, I did use a casing front on my last 10k that split.... so get from this what you like, 2 dead 10k's and the third split case in I'd say 3.5 years the first one went, pond is now circa 5 years old


    Not certain how this compares to others
    i have both the pond expert and EA the 2 x 10000 pond experts have run fine, the 20000 Ea has also run fine , it was just cost at the time

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    I have had aqua forte's in 10,000, 20,000 and 30,000 the 30,000 packed up, but the others are still OK.
    but you can't get any spares for them...nothing...not even an O ring...

    So I swapped over to coastal koi's Aqua Eco (sine wave) varios 20,000 pumps though as you can get spares for them, body, impellor, controller everything...
    https://coastal-koi.com/product/aqua...e-wave-spares/

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    Messner auga if you can get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    I have had aqua forte's in 10,000, 20,000 and 30,000 the 30,000 packed up, but the others are still OK.
    but you can't get any spares for them...nothing...not even an O ring...

    So I swapped over to coastal koi's Aqua Eco (sine wave) varios 20,000 pumps though as you can get spares for them, body, impellor, controller everything...
    https://coastal-koi.com/product/aqua...e-wave-spares/
    I did think about one of them but I read it limits you from turning it down under a certain percent which put me off cuz I want to slow it right down in winter

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    I've had two EA 20,000 VP's go down with faulty control boxes (E03 Code). Another member of our Koi club has had three control boxes go and is now swapping out to Oase. All pumps purchased around 2021. I'll be a bit wary of purchasing EA in the future - although they did replace one box free of charge.

    Previously run Aquaforte with no issues.
    2,700 Gallon, Infinity Window, Aquasource Synergy 35 Drum, 12Kw Thermotec Invertor, Amalgum UV.

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    Yeah Im steering towards a pondxpert

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    I have had aqua forte's in 10,000, 20,000 and 30,000 the 30,000 packed up, but the others are still OK.
    but you can't get any spares for them...nothing...not even an O ring...

    So I swapped over to coastal koi's Aqua Eco (sine wave) varios 20,000 pumps though as you can get spares for them, body, impellor, controller everything...
    https://coastal-koi.com/product/aqua...e-wave-spares/
    The common failure point on the identical looking Jebao and Aqua forte's tends to be the O-rings between the pump body and impeller housing which start to seep after a few years. Adding PTFE tape to them can extend their life by a couple more years.

    I would have thought the spares for these Aqua Eco pumps would fit the others, but they don't seem to have the O-rings listed.

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    I have an aquaforte DM vario 20k which I've had for over 5 years and had no issues apart from when cleaning inside it started to leak. Mike at Shosha koi managed to source me a replacement O ring and been fine since!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormstorr View Post
    I've had two EA 20,000 VP's go down with faulty control boxes (E03 Code). Another member of our Koi club has had three control boxes go and is now swapping out to Oase. All pumps purchased around 2021. I'll be a bit wary of purchasing EA in the future - although they did replace one box free of charge.

    Previously run Aquaforte with no issues.

    And the third control box just gone with an E03 Error.
    2,700 Gallon, Infinity Window, Aquasource Synergy 35 Drum, 12Kw Thermotec Invertor, Amalgum UV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormstorr View Post
    And the third control box just gone with an E03 Error.
    I read something the other day about that error being a bad capacitor so of ur handy with a soldering iron u can prob fix it

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    I sent my latest two control box failures back to EA with a note asking if they can repair or refurbish. They replied that they don't offer that service - which I guess guarantees them future business from people buying replacements at £140 each. They did offer me 25% discount on a replacement.

    Like my colleague, mine were all purchased in 2021, and I've read somewhere that EA outsourced some work during COVID and there was a batch of sub standard control boxes about.

    Don't know if that's true, but I'm sure somebody with an electrical background would soon be able to diagnose and solder in a new capacitor or whatever!

    Mine are all in the bin now.
    2,700 Gallon, Infinity Window, Aquasource Synergy 35 Drum, 12Kw Thermotec Invertor, Amalgum UV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    I did think about one of them but I read it limits you from turning it down under a certain percent which put me off cuz I want to slow it right down in winter
    You can always use a manual valve to throttle the water flow down or send some of the water back to the pump intake. Variable speed pumps are relatively new technology. Single speed pumps don't have electronic controllers that often fail so single speed pumps can be cheaper and more reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noo View Post
    You can always use a manual valve to throttle the water flow down or send some of the water back to the pump intake. Variable speed pumps are relatively new technology. Single speed pumps don't have electronic controllers that often fail so single speed pumps can be cheaper and more reliable.
    Agreed.
    If you are going to put a valve on the pump, just remember to throttle the output, not the input.
    Throttling the output just appears to be extra head to overcome, whereas throttling the input can cause cavitation on the impeller and cause extra wear.

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    throttling the output on a non variable pump surely will put more pressure on the motor causing over heat or worse still burn out.

    keith

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    Depending on your plumbing you could go down a different path to get seasonal flow rate variation.
    You could have a fixed rate Summer pump and a lower flow fixed rate Winter pump.
    Both would be operating at their peak efficiency.
    You have a spare on hand just in case.
    Proabably no more expensive than a decent single variable pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolo View Post
    throttling the output on a non variable pump surely will put more pressure on the motor causing over heat or worse still burn out.

    keith
    It's exactly the same as raising the height of the output, there is a bit more dynamic head, so the flow will reduce.
    There is no reason for the pump to run significantly hotter as they are designed to run up to their maximum head.
    There is still a good rate of cooling water passing through the pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukzero View Post
    Depending on your plumbing you could go down a different path to get seasonal flow rate variation.
    You could have a fixed rate Summer pump and a lower flow fixed rate Winter pump.
    Both would be operating at their peak efficiency.
    You have a spare on hand just in case.
    Proabably no more expensive than a decent single variable pump.
    Yes, that's exactly what I do to back wash pressure sand filters. Instead of using the multi-port valve I have 2 different water pumps with inline manual valves. One much bigger pump is used for back washing the sand clean and the other smaller pump is used for normal running of filtration. It was too expensive to run a large pump the whole time and a small pump wasn't great at forcefully flushing. Both pumps are hard plumbed in but the larger one is turned off and the inline valve closed during normal filter operation.

    For pumps with an impeller, throttling the flow down with a valve will save electrical consumption too as the motor spin is slowed. I am not technical enough to explain but look it up.
    Last edited by noo; 05-11-2025 at 03:50 PM.

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