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    Swapping pump for filter - 1.5inch to 2inch converter?

    Hello!
    I'm very new to this, we inherited a pond with a house move a couple of months ago.
    Unfortunately we have discovered that the main pump has packed up which means none of the very fancy filtration system is working (we simply have a fountain and air bubbler functioning). Feeling mainly concerned about the fish who don't seem to come to the surface much any more.

    Long story short we think we can move the existing oase water discharge pump to the filtration system (no need for the water discharge pump currently). However it uses 1.5inch pipes and the old broken oase pump is 2inch.

    Does anyone know if there's a bit of straightforward converter kit I can buy so they become compatible? Don't really want to buy a brand new pump at this stage - we are still figuring out if we want to keep the pond or shut down..

    Thanks in advance!



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    Discharge pumps are not designed to run continuously.

    The only thing I would comfortably suggest would be to replace the broken pump, even if it means buying a 2nd hand one that has 2" outlets. You can find them cheap enough and it will save all the messing about with mating up all the different size pipe fittings and making everything watertight.

    For most of us here a failed pump is an emergency requiring immediate intervention so it is the type of thing a lot of us will carry spares for, therefore to me at least any other solution is sub par considering the importance of keeping the pond filtration running.

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    Thanks for the speedy reply.

    Looks like the backup pump is an oase aquamax 16000 dry - my understanding was that it could run.. or is it a different type?

    Do converter kits not exist to go from 2" to 1.5"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali724 View Post
    Thanks for the speedy reply.

    Looks like the backup pump is an oase aquamax 16000 dry - my understanding was that it could run.. or is it a different type?

    Do converter kits not exist to go from 2" to 1.5"?
    Hi, yes that pump should be ok. By discharge pump I thought you meant a sump pump or similar, and the fittings on these don't usually match the sizes of pond fittings.

    You can get 2" to 1.5" converters, there's different types depending on if you have grey pressure pipe or black solvent weld waste pipe.

    There might be better places to buy from but I tend to use the Fiveacre koi website for this type of fitting, or you could look on eBay.
    What you need depends on how everything is connected, but if your pump has threaded connections you can buy a threaded connection for a 1.5" pump outlet and then a 1.5" to 2" connector to solvent weld onto the threaded connection, (only necessary if your actual pipework is 2").



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    Thank you, that makes sense.

    Didn't realise it'd be a solvent weld type job, was hoping there might be something I could screw on!

    So complex!

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    Oase pumps like the aquamax 16000 are notorious for not re-starting after being turned off, but once going they run forever until the very next time you need to turn it off again, then it won't run again - and the so the cycle continues. Turn it off and on again a few times. Disconnect it, put it in a bucket of water, turn it on, 'bounce' it off the floor of the bucket. 99% of the time it will 'bounce' back into life.

    Soaking it, totally submerged in white vinegar for a few days is a good idea too, before declaring it dead.

    I've had two 16000, a 12000 and an 11000. All did the same thing - PAIN IN THE ARSE THOSE THINGS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali724 View Post
    Thank you, that makes sense.

    Didn't realise it'd be a solvent weld type job, was hoping there might be something I could screw on!

    So complex!
    Solvent weld fittings are the easiest in reality once you get over the initial nerves of using it.

    Assuming it is solvent weld pipework that you already have. If you aren't sure post up a photo of what you have.



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    Ooh good advice, will give that a go! Thank you and fingers crossed!

    Random one but where are you getting the white vinegar in that sort of volume from?!

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    You can get white vinegar in 5 litre cans/tubs off eBay or Amazon etc.

    I bought 20 litres to get free postage about 8 years ago, and still have about 10 litres left haha.

    One thing I have used on pond equipment is Astonish all purpose descaler (available online or at Savers) which uses natural ingredients and is very effective. Safe enough that I use it in the kettle as well, but try and make sure you thoroughly wash it out after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali724 View Post
    Thank you, that makes sense.

    Didn't realise it'd be a solvent weld type job, was hoping there might be something I could screw on!

    So complex!
    Sorry I didn't see this earlier Ali, I've been under orders for Christmas stuff from the boss.

    Making good, leak-free glued joints is easy if you do them properly and this is the correct method which I've written to cover all the frequent questions I get asked:

    How to make good glue joints:
    Weld-On 725 Wet'R'Dry solvent cement is an excellent glue for either ABS or PVC pipework and is ideal for pipework up to 4" (110 mm) for those who can work quickly and with confidence. However, application and assembly of joints should be completed within about 15 to 20 seconds so it's too fast for those who are inexperienced and need extra time, especially on larger pipe sizes or in higher ambient temperatures.

    Tangit PVC-u is a slower setting glue for either ABS or PVC so application and assembly can be done more slowly as long as it's completed within about 30 to 60 seconds.

    When Wet'R'Dry is used on ABS, hold joints together for a few seconds to allow setting to begin. When used on PVC, hold joints together for at least 30 seconds to prevent the pipe pushing back out again especially with looser fitting joints but reapply pressure if the pipe shows any signs of pushing back out.

    When Tangit is used on ABS, hold joints together for 30 seconds to allow setting to begin. When used on PVC, hold joints together for 60 seconds but, again, reapply pressure if the pipe shows any signs of pushing back out.

    With either type of cement, you MUST use a solvent cleaner! This is badly named because it’s NOT just a cleaner, it prepares the surfaces and ensures that the cement penetrates and makes a good weld so it's essential, not optional, if you want good joints that don't leak!! Since solvent cleaner dries quickly, especially on PVC, the timing is important and the cement should be applied as soon as possible after the cleaner before the softened surfaces have time to dry and become hard again. Have everything ready, apply the cleaner to both the fitting and pipe then apply the cement to both and quickly push them together.

    With either type of cement, before applying the cleaner, roughen up PVC fittings and pipe surfaces with sand paper to give the cement a key (this isn’t necessary with ABS pipes). After the joint is made, allow 30 minutes setting time for ABS pipework or 60 minutes for PVC pipework before putting it under the pressure we would normally find in a koi pond filter system.

    If you slightly chamfer the end of the pipe, it doesn’t make any difference whether you twist it to make it slightly easier to push it into the fitting or whether you push it straight in.

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