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    Ph to high

    Hi all
    I have just done test on pond but ph is far to high whatís best to lower this as canít wait for same koi but will wait till water levels are right I know the water where I am has a high ph (hard) is this the problem or do I need to add a uv tho pond is in side any help be great
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    Hi

    You have said the pH is too high but you have not said what the level is?

    A UV is not going to help your pH value.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo76 View Post
    Hi all
    I have just done test on pond but ph is far to high whatís best to lower this as canít wait for same koi but will wait till water levels are right I know the water where I am has a high ph (hard) is this the problem or do I need to add a uv tho pond is in side any help be great
    thanks
    Probably not qualified to answer but a good starting point would be to say what your ph in the pond is and what the ph of your tap water is? Then you can start to work out the cause.
    I think I'm right in saying that koi can thrive in water with a ph of around 8.5 (that's where my water is).
    Hopefully one of the more experienced guys on here will help you out.

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    Hi mikeh83
    It is off the chart well over the 5.0mg was thinking is it down to uv as the sun Plays a part in high ph was hoping should I say or is it my tap water will a water change help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letimgo View Post
    Probably not qualified to answer but a good starting point would be to say what your ph in the pond is and what the ph of your tap water is? Then you can start to work out the cause.
    I think I'm right in saying that koi can thrive in water with a ph of around 8.5 (that's where my water is).
    Hopefully one of the more experienced guys on here will help you out.

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    Your correct that koi can happily live at a pH of 8.5 but this is the top end of that scale.

    Koi can adjust to live in a pH a safe rage is between 7 and 8.5 outside of these values you could run into issues fast.

    I would say that koi favour the lower range to really thrive but as said would be happy at the higher range.

    What koi do not like is fluctuations in the pH


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    Nice 1 letimgo
    hope so so looking forward to setting back and enjoying
    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo76 View Post
    Hi mikeh83
    It is off the chart well over the 5.0mg was thinking is it down to uv as the sun Plays a part in high ph was hoping should I say or is it my tap water will a water change help
    5.0 mg... are you sure this is a pH test result?

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    If you talking off scale is it ammonia you are testing for?

    If pH is 5 this is low not high and I would not add anything living to it Ph to high


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo76 View Post
    Hi mikeh83
    It is off the chart well over the 5.0mg was thinking is it down to uv as the sun Plays a part in high ph was hoping should I say or is it my tap water will a water change help
    pH is not measured in mg, and 5.0 would be extremely acid (low).
    If you’re in doubt over interpreting the result on the colour chart perhaps put a photo of the tube against the chart here for us to see?

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    Hi mikeh83
    sorry got a bit mixed up ph is above would say about 10-10.5 so yer way to high what’s best to get this right
    cheers

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    Hmm I would be questioning what made it so high in the first place. Have you added anything to the pond other than tap water?


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    Cheers feline
    I did get my charts mixed up been a long week lol just would like water right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo76 View Post
    Cheers feline
    I did get my charts mixed up been a long week lol just would like water right
    What test kit are you using?


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    Not yet just tap water I do live near a water tower or is it I need some gold fish to help kick off the filter just don’t want to add any more problems to it lol

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    Colombo testlab professional not sure if the best

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    Well this test kit only has a range upto 9 for pH

    Ph to high


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    I think it best that you post all of the parameters to give a clearer picture of what is going on as they all have relationships with each other so will help determine what you need to do to fix it.

    Especially the following:

    Temperature
    Ammonia
    Nitrite
    Nitrate
    PH
    KH

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    Hi Robo76, Was just looking back at your previous threads and you were having issues with a film on the surface of your water very recently. Has that cleared up now and were you able to figure out what it was? I couldn't quite make out if this was a newly built pond or just a newly built, (and seriously impressive!), pond house around an existing pond. If the pond was newly fibre glassed did you fill and empty with water after it was cured? I'm just wondering if these strange readings are something to do with chemical off-gassing of your new set up still

    Adding fish is not going to have any effect on pH and if your pH is not between 7 and 8.5 you really don't want to be putting fish in for risk of seriously stressing, possibly even killing, them as they'll be stressed from being transported anyhow. You ideally want to be adding fish only if you are able to keep your pond at around 18C now so that you can get a nitrogen cycle started with the help of the ammonia from the fish; any colder than that and your filter bugs will struggle to reproduce in an immature filter so you may have a battle to keep the water safe for any fish you add.

    Do please post up all your param readings as RS has suggested as I don't think we can really advise until we see the full picture
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    Hi Robo,

    I use these kits too at times and they are Ok.

    Please note the Ph test only reads to 9 though so something still may be confused, in respect of which test is being undertaken, which is easily done.

    Please don’t do anything until the readings are fully understood as a wrong decision may be taken that could have catastrophic results for the fish.

    There are plenty of knowledgeable members already on your thread who will help and guide you. If you want any advice over the phone in addition then I am happy for you to make contact with me.

    Cheers

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    Thanks so much all of you fab people I think I got mixed up with the charts I will redo them again had a mad week mind was not fully on it if I have same results I will post them for you great people
    thanks again

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    How have you got on Robo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robo76 View Post
    Thanks so much all of you fab people I think I got mixed up with the charts I will redo them again had a mad week mind was not fully on it if I have same results I will post them for you great people
    thanks again
    4,100 gallon pond, infinity window, duratec heater, aerated BD, 3 bakki showers full of BHM, amalgam UV, 3 Blue Ecoís, construction skimmer, trickle in/out, Oase Profi Drum and some very spoilt koi.

    3 separate grow on vats, one 1,600 gallon QT and a customer first business

    www.aurorakoi.co.uk

    www.facebook.com/aurorakoiuk

 

 
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