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    Bio Chamber v Bakki Shower ?

    Hi folks

    I`m currently planning to upgrade my filtration , mainly to cut down on maintainance , and also to have everything situated indoors (garage) .

    At the moment I have an easypod acting mainly as a pre-filter , followed by a bead (both inside) and an outdoor bio unit with waterfall and 2 other returns

    I`m finding that Im spending a lot of time cleaning the bio unit outdoors , so looking to avoid this .

    What I`ve done so far is to bypass the bead filter , as I don't think it was doing a lot , switched the bio unit to fluid rather than static , and tweaked the easypod , adding a filter sock and sponge to help with the mechanical filtration .

    The fish look happy - so far my perameters are unchanged and I reckon I`m getting less fines in the pond with the mods to the easypod

    What I plan to do next is bring the bio unit indoors . Problem is , Its too big so will have to be rebuilt . I`ll do a DIY job probably . And maybe at some point replace the pod with a drum .

    My question right now is , should I make another bio chamber , or would a shower be better . I don't have a lot of space , so it`ll probably come down to a choice between the two . The shower would be indoors rather than situated over the pond .

    Any thoughts would be much appreciated . Pond is around 2.5k Gallons .


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    I sounds like it’s a the mechanical stage failing really and by passing the bead will make this worse.
    personally I would change the easy pod for a sieve or better still a drum and then into your bead and bio.
    i ran a nexus with a bead for may years with very good results, the bead used to take about fines and act as extra bio.

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    I would be looking to swap out the EazyPod and not the bio at all.
    If you got a drum on there your bio units will remain clean and it means next to no maintenance for you.

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    Thanks for the input , folks .

    Ive been running with my current set up for about a week now . I forgot to mention that Ive swapped the K1 in the pod for micro . I`m finding now that there are a lot less fines in the pond now and the improvements to the pod are making a difference .
    The fish went off their food for a day or 2 when I made the changes , but are looking a lot happier now and feeding well .
    Of course , now the pod is catching more waste , it`ll mean more regular cleaning , but its easier for me to clean the pod , than the bio unit .

    I`m thinking , the next stage will be to bring the bio unit indoors , over the winter . I`ll see how this works and how happy I am with the cleaning regime .

    I think I will at some point , as Lara suggested , replace the pod with a drum .

    Incidentally , I saw a video of Adam Byer being interviwed at his farm , last night . On all his systems , he runs a drum and a k1 fluid bed bio chamber , so if its good enough for him - then I wont argue . I`ll probably go with this rather than the shower .
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo View Post
    Thanks for the input , folks .

    Ive been running with my current set up for about a week now . I forgot to mention that Ive swapped the K1 in the pod for micro . I`m finding now that there are a lot less fines in the pond now and the improvements to the pod are making a difference .
    The fish went off their food for a day or 2 when I made the changes , but are looking a lot happier now and feeding well .
    Of course , now the pod is catching more waste , it`ll mean more regular cleaning , but its easier for me to clean the pod , than the bio unit .

    I`m thinking , the next stage will be to bring the bio unit indoors , over the winter . I`ll see how this works and how happy I am with the cleaning regime .

    I think I will at some point , as Lara suggested , replace the pod with a drum .

    Incidentally , I saw a video of Adam Byer being interviwed at his farm , last night . On all his systems , he runs a drum and a k1 fluid bed bio chamber , so if its good enough for him - then I wont argue . I`ll probably go with this rather than the shower .
    drum drum drum all day long,

    the key if removing as much debris in the first stage of any filtration system, biggest reason for this is the massive reduction in risk of bacteria/viruses from waste settling in the bio side/in your pipes or the pond floor some fish parasites love to hide in waste material , which then means treatments become non effective as they cant penetrate through debris

    less debris in the water also allows for better oxygenation
    less debris in the bio from having a drum or sieve allows for far better processing of ammonia/nitrite and nitrate although floating bio's dont do that well at converting nitrate which many of us see with blanket weed /green water if you dont have a UV or suitable sized UV for the pond
    bakki showers are ment to be best but the costs are far greater

    i dont need to do any cleaning on my system , odd clean of the pond window every other week

    happy to make you a drum filter mate for a very good price. much cheaper than anything on the market. pm me if interested.

    thanks
    mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by markini5 View Post
    drum drum drum all day long,

    the key if removing as much debris in the first stage of any filtration system, biggest reason for this is the massive reduction in risk of bacteria/viruses from waste settling in the bio side/in your pipes or the pond floor some fish parasites love to hide in waste material , which then means treatments become non effective as they cant penetrate through debris

    less debris in the water also allows for better oxygenation
    less debris in the bio from having a drum or sieve allows for far better processing of ammonia/nitrite and nitrate although floating bio's dont do that well at converting nitrate which many of us see with blanket weed /green water if you dont have a UV or suitable sized UV for the pond
    bakki showers are ment to be best but the costs are far greater

    i dont need to do any cleaning on my system , odd clean of the pond window every other week

    happy to make you a drum filter mate for a very good price. much cheaper than anything on the market. pm me if interested.

    thanks
    mark
    Could be interested , Mark . Ive PMd you
    Colin

    2500 Gallon Fibreglass Pond
    Eazypod , Bio-Max 4 Bead , 18 Basket Anoxic

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