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    Bakki Shower Advice

    Good morning

    I want to install a four tier Bakki shower I am going for the Evolve 1000mm long version can anyone tell me how much media it will require and will it need to go in each tier. I know the Momontaro is the best but what is the best alternatives.

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    BHM you are looking about 250+ litres of media

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    https://kitsukoi.co.uk/collections/f...-infrared-10kg ive got a momotaro 4 tier and its got 70kg of BHM in but will be getting another 10 or 20kg of this in this year to top it up,,,andi

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    Hi , looking at todays cost, your looking at a arm and a leg .So going with andi , with 15kg in each tier your looking at £414 as a start .

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    Thank you for the Advice looks like I will be going to KitsuKoi thanks again for all your help much appreciated.

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    I don't know enough about media but I like grog and cheap as chips . Is it no good in showers

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    A shower I had on a pond I had 5/6 years ago had the small bits of grog in it so it was in onion bags but that was great.

    At the moment I'm running grog ,crystal bio and midori csm

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    I don't know enough about media but I like grog and cheap as chips . Is it no good in showers

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    Grog is great in a shower but use the big stuff.
    I made the mistake and ordered some small and boy it is small and needs to go in a mesh sack.
    John

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    I’ve got 70kg of bakki house media, looking to increase that this year.
    i would like to add another shower but it’s quite a big out lay, not sure it will happen this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim View Post
    Iíve got 70kg of bakki house media, looking to increase that this year.
    i would like to add another shower but itís quite a big out lay, not sure it will happen this year.
    See am to greedy I'll be adding a shower this year but itll be diy and grog

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    See am to greedy I'll be adding a shower this year but itll be diy and grog

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    Mate get yourself down bnq and get some heavy duty grey boxes they excellent I already have a diy Bakki shower but see these boxes today and had to buy as they look puka! They are really thick and have strengthened bottoms! Perfect for the job


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marckoi View Post
    Good morning

    I want to install a four tier Bakki shower I am going for the Evolve 1000mm long version can anyone tell me how much media it will require and will it need to go in each tier. I know the Momontaro is the best but what is the best alternatives.

    Many thanks
    Bought a 4 tier 1500 long Shower from Ian, he advised that'll probably take around 40 to 50 kg's of BHM.

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    I also have a 100cm width x 24cm x 30cm 4 tier Bakki shower, I purchased 1 box of 10kg Sakura far infrared shower media from Kitsu koi which fills one tier once you have broken each Pierce in two and mixed the media up so it sits at every angle. This is £69 per box which isnít bad, Iíve also got pumice in 3 tiers and looking at 25kg of pumice is approximately £50 on eBay plus delivery so I went with Sakura and will get some more in the summer. The pump is important too as you need a good amount of flow over it if you want it as a shower and not a trickle tower. 20,000 litre pump is a good flow rate.


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    Mine is diy and grog and doing well so fare.

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    i used to have a small fiberglass shower before my momotaro and had pumice in that,until i found out it was breaking down and the minute glass shards were irritating koi,it was actually crystal bio,which shocked me,never again,its in a bag at top of garden with the rest of my old pond stuff lol,also you will find that the plastic boxes arent uv protected and will eventually go brittle and crack,they also bow well,,,,,andi

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    Bakki Shower Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    i used to have a small fiberglass shower before my momotaro and had pumice in that,until i found out it was breaking down and the minute glass shards were irritating koi,it was actually crystal bio,which shocked me,never again,its in a bag at top of garden with the rest of my old pond stuff lol,also you will find that the plastic boxes arent uv protected and will eventually go brittle and crack,they also bow well,,,,,andi
    Glad a read this about the pumice! And I gota say some of the boxes may bow if they are cheap but if you buy the more expensive heavy duty ones they are not bowing, the ones Iv just bought have reinforced bottoms! They was expensive but perfect for the job! Until I decide to get a stainless steel one Iím playing with diy! I think the problem is with some of the diy showers the first thing people go for is cheapest boxes possible.


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    Pumice isnít crystal bio.
    Pumice is a rock, Crystal bio is sintered glass.


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    Pumice isnít crystal bio.
    Pumice is a rock, Crystal bio is sintered glass.


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    Lol yeah i think I read that wrong now I reread what he said! Think Andy got sold some hookie fake pumice Bakki Shower Advice I got some grog at mo but think when I get a bigger shower il try sum pumice with it in a tray of its own


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    No worries. Iím interested in the longevity of pumice as is very soft. Iíd presume it will erode in a shower.


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    I bought a bag of pumice and didn't like it at all,no holes in it or very few.

    It's in a bucket in the garden if anyone wants it.
    John

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