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    Newly filled pond - What to expect?

    So as of sunday my pond has been up and running (hurrah!) minus the UV's and I decided to do my first water test tonight. There is no fish in of course but I just wanted to try the kit and get an understanding of it.The results as follows:

    PH - 7.5
    Nitrate - 0
    Nitrite - 0
    Ammonia - 0
    Alkalinity took 15 drops to reach the correct colour (should be 6 ideally according to kit)
    General Hardness took 24 drops (should be 8 ideally)

    All I have added to the pond is the required ST is there anything to worry about at such an early stage? Used an NT labs kit.



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    All your readings will be fine, you haven’t got any fish in there to bugger them up yet.
    Only thing to worry about so far then is leaks lol

    You need ammonia to start the nitrogen cycle, then the fun starts



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    What to expect....... Empty pockets
    5000 Gallon Fibreglassed Pond With 54" x 27" Infinity Window
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1671 View Post
    What to expect....... Empty pockets
    Haha you ain’t wrong !


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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    So as of sunday my pond has been up and running (hurrah!) minus the UV's and I decided to do my first water test tonight. There is no fish in of course but I just wanted to try the kit and get an understanding of it.The results as follows:

    PH - 7.5
    Nitrate - 0
    Nitrite - 0
    Ammonia - 0
    Alkalinity took 15 drops to reach the correct colour (should be 6 ideally according to kit)
    General Hardness took 24 drops (should be 8 ideally)

    All I have added to the pond is the required ST is there anything to worry about at such an early stage? Used an NT labs kit.
    Good stuff bud fun times ahead picking ya fish


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    Remember your a water keeper not a fish keeper. Get that right and you will be happy.
    But more importantly so will the fish. Build everything up slow. A couple of fish to start
    So it's all in control
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    Try not to fall into the trap of going over the top with new fish purchases.We all do it, but the price you pay is going through 'new pond syndrome' in a much more severe way.
    Ponds are very slow to mature- a fully functional robust biofilm on all surfaces not just the filter can take 2 years to develop, so don't plan to fully. stock your pond in the first year and life will be a lot easier.

    If you have no fish yet this would be a really good time to 'fishless cycle' some media which can be done indoors in a big container etc. https://www.mankysanke.co.uk/html/fishless_cycling.html

    Water temps are currently low unless you're heating so it would be a bad time to add fish. Wait until March if you can when things are warming up and filters can get going faster.

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    hi, now your up and running you will see your bank account will go down just as fast as you filled the pond with water . lol good luck with it all .

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    Thank for all the comments guys! I don't plan to get any koi till at least March although hoping to get a couple of common/mirror Carp in the not too distant future, and as you have all said start slowly and gradually build up the stock.
    In my head my magic number of fish is 10 (we shall see ) as I want them to all grow well.

    As for the money, The fella I brought my filter from told me he estimates he's spent about 4k per 1000 galleons. I was shocked when he said this however he had everything including little grow on ponds etc. I think I'm somewhere between 3 - 3.5 so far but to the missus its no more than 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    Thank for all the comments guys! I don't plan to get any koi till at least March although hoping to get a couple of common/mirror Carp in the not too distant future, and as you have all said start slowly and gradually build up the stock.
    In my head my magic number of fish is 10 (we shall see ) as I want them to all grow well.

    As for the money, The fella I brought my filter from told me he estimates he's spent about 4k per 1000 galleons. I was shocked when he said this however he had everything including little grow on ponds etc. I think I'm somewhere between 3 - 3.5 so far but to the missus its no more than 2
    Most people start of with a couple of goldfish as they are more hardy and small so slowly get the filters working. Good bit of advice is measure what you feed each day as when summer comes it’s so easy to overfeed and get them amonia spikes which you don’t want Newly filled pond - What to expect?


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    Most people start of with a couple of goldfish as they are more hardy and small so slowly get the filters working. Good bit of advice is measure what you feed each day as when summer comes it’s so easy to overfeed and get them amonia spikes which you don’t want Newly filled pond - What to expect?


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    Thank you for the advice, I did think about goldfish but as I want common/mirror carp anyway (fisherman) and from my past fish keeping experience I have found they are exceptionally hardy too

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    And messy, they eat load so poo loads.
    Having said that, my mate has some decent carp in his pond which are knocking on the door of 20Ibs


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcarpchaser View Post
    And messy, they eat load so poo loads.
    Having said that, my mate has some decent carp in his pond which are knocking on the door of 20Ibs


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    I used to have a couple 2 inch ones in a big tank in doors and the cleaning schedule was daily! you don't mind when its your babies though

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    Thank you for the advice, I did think about goldfish but as I want common/mirror carp anyway (fisherman) and from my past fish keeping experience I have found they are exceptionally hardy too
    I have a little ghost carp il attach a pic... he was tiny when i got him but he is easily catching up with the larger koi now! Puka little fish! IMG_8582.JPGIMG_9293.JPG


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    I have a little ghost carp il attach a pic... he was tiny when i got him but he is easily catching up with the larger koi now! Puka little fish! IMG_8582.JPGIMG_9293.JPG


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    lovely fish Charco, Ghosties do look stunning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    lovely fish Charco, Ghosties do look stunning!
    It’s all about the koi for me though there are so many different strains there’s always something new catching my eye!


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    It’s all about the koi for me though there are so many different strains there’s always something new catching my eye!


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    That's how we end up over stocked lol
    Especially when the grand kids turn up with a fish for grandads pond. On his birthday.
    Newly filled pond - What to expect?Newly filled pond - What to expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    That's how we end up over stocked lol
    Especially when the grand kids turn up with a fish for grandads pond. On his birthday.
    Newly filled pond - What to expect?Newly filled pond - What to expect?

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    Haha well you have a big enough pond !


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    Haha well you have a big enough pond !


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    Never to big lol. Over stocked as it is.
    My setup handles the fish load.
    But only just

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    Take some fish to over stock slickbys pond when it's done

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