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    You could trY some plants in your anoxic. Prettier than a cover.

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    Floating plants are good for removing shite but most die back over winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffee View Post
    You could trY some plants in your anoxic. Prettier than a cover.
    Will do, but want to wait for spring. Don't know anything about plants so will go for lilies simply because they'll cover water surface and reduce light to restrict algae growth.
    Last edited by RS2OOO; 30-09-2019 at 08:13 PM.

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    If your anoxic tank is protected in a mini heated greenhouse /cloche / terrarium you could grow salad crops (lettuce ,spinach,basil etc) with a little help from LED grow lights through the winter.

    You can grow the seedlings in rockwool cubes which are then transplanted to mini baskets surrounded by clay beads. Then a floating polystyrene raft keeps some of the roots access to oxygen whilst keeping the nutrients supplied to the plants. The plants feed on the nitrates helping to remove them from the water. However if you are not feeding the fish over winter the plants will not thrive due to the lack of waste.

    I have had some limited experience with my grow on tank in the heated greenhouse and hope to expand the aqua phonics system soonimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg

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    Kabooooooom snap R’s, has to do the nitrate test twice as I thought I’d messed it up but no, zero.
    Was 20 on Saturday.






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    Well pleased for you BCC.... That is a great result, more so as you've gone "balls deep" and don't have any media bio filtration whatsoever.

    Gotta also say again that it's your shopping list and build photos that really pushed me into getting the job done, and I'm well pleased with the results. Thank you.

    Have you managed to get a phosphate reading?

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    I do also have my “mini shower” RS, that may or not be helping/hindering.
    I haven’t done a phosphate test but it’s on the list
    I’m sure I’m in for a spike sooner or later though lol
    Glad to have been of help mate. Hope others can benefit from our combined experiences.


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    You might get away with not having a spike. You're low stocked, less feeding with the cooler temps, and you're nitrate is down.... You might already be fully cycled.

    Lets see how it goes.

    Next step will be to compare water change regimes.

    I'll find it hard to reduce weekly / bi weekly water changes that have been a part of life for 30+ years. Having done a big water change this weekend for the pond repair, I'm going to do one more 10% change before going on hols, then attempt not to change any for a Month, then gradually go from there.

    A 10% Monthly change will potentially save around £30 per Month in water bills (£360 per year) and I'll be doing my bit for Greta Thunberg.

    £360 per year will probably more than cover annual Koi food costs now I'm going to be using Coppens food.
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    Ok that sounds like a plan.
    Up to now I’ve been changing around 5% of my water every 3 days rather than trickling which is how I started.
    After a chat with Skoosh and SimI concurred with them that a percentage of the fresh trickle would just be going down the drain so at this early stage it might be beneficial to do more regular but smaller changes.
    I’ll check KH etc tomorrow and have ordered a phosphate testing kit.
    I feel I’m starting to get a handle on what’s happening now though even if I don’t fully understand it all yet
    I’ve notice a pattern of behaviour in the fish now, they definitely all hang around the window around 7.30 waiting for breakfast then head over to the farthest corner from the skimmer where I’ve been feeding them and there’s also a distinct pecking order of who comes up when. The Shiro is always first on the scene followed by the little mongrel.
    Then the 2 biggies barge them out of the way and almost launch out to grab some grub. The other 2 seem to hang back a bit a wait for the leftovers.
    Don’t think it will take much to get them hand feeding in the spring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Will do, but want to wait for spring. Don't know anything about plants so will go for lilies simply because they'll cover water surface and reduce light to restrict algae growth.
    Iris and Lilly's are good mate. Helps with my water parameters.

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    Good news Bcc glad it's working for you, I hardly ever change the water in my main pond with having the anoxic,put loads of water cress in the shower hanging over the sides covers the shower containers and works well.
    John

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    I’ve been given some mature reeds and another marginal plant which I want to put in a planter and dangle into the pond somehow. Will work it out this weekend hopefully.
    I’d like to have put them into the anoxic but it’s in my garage and there’s only a small window in there so I doubt they’d get enough light to flourish.


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    John,
    With the watercress, do you take them out over winter?
    The roots don’t get too messy in the showers?

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    Anoxic Filtration - So Shocked I Nearly Burnt my Dinner

    Readings today
    Ammonia 0
    Nitrite 0
    Nitrate 40
    Gh 16 drops
    Kh 10 drops
    Ph 8.2

    Little water change tonight I think


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    Why has the nitrate gone up so quick in just a few days?

    If the Anoxic has cycled the ammonia should completely skip the nitrite and nitrate stage.

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    I have no idea tbh


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    Stupid question alert .may be a manky question like but is there a minimum of baskets to be used to gain benefit just built a planter 9ft long by 1ft wide 1 1/2 ft high (I think hight is right) after reading success would love to add anoxic with plants ??

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    It probably depends on water volume and fish stocking but you could get a decent number of smaller baskets in there mate. Just make sure you have enough room for water to circulate, add in the plants and I reckon you could be onto a winner.
    They have to be planted in something so why not an anoxic basket? Best of both worlds then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Why has the nitrate gone up so quick in just a few days?

    If the Anoxic has cycled the ammonia should completely skip the nitrite and nitrate stage.
    I would doubt the first zero test was accurate. My pond has run for a year with minimal water changes( maybe equivalent to two changes in a year) and Nitrates remain at a steady 20-25ppm. Fully anoxic filtration. Ammonia pretty much always zero but Nitrite stubbornly sticks around 0.05ppm and has so far refused to go lower. I think every pond is unique though and each system probably has its own quirks. I have planted baskets but unlike most others with anoxic's they dont seem to thrive at all and have only managed lacklustre growth this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffee View Post
    John,
    With the watercress, do you take them out over winter?
    The roots don’t get too messy in the showers?
    This is the first winter but I think the cress will die off over winter,very vigorous at the moment though.
    John

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