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    Pond glass to sealant

    Hello people had a search and all the answers seem to be different and a couple years back ! Trace being one of the main replies.

    So just to recap incase anything has changed . Which sealant would be the better option to bond glass to liner . ( it isn't the good rubber liner mind just run of the mill pond liner )

    And also is 75mm 3 sides enough overlap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Hello people had a search and all the answers seem to be different and a couple years back ! Trace being one of the main replies.

    So just to recap incase anything has changed . Which sealant would be the better option to bond glass to liner . ( it isn't the good rubber liner mind just run of the mill pond liner )

    And also is 75mm 3 sides enough overlap

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    I'd use a hybrid sealant, CWD pond shows some good installations of it.
    MS290 pondseals own brand sealant MS300? i think or CT1



    here's Trace's post... I have Trace's T-Tips#1-12 saved in links
    how to fit a pond window to liner part 1 and 2

    T-Tip#5
    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-diy-tip...ng-window.html

    T-Tip#6
    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-diy-tip...ighlight=ms290

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    Big miss trace ain't she ! Always full of knowledge! . Cheers dave . Not going massive with the window as its a flat window in a curve wall think it should look OK for what am wanting tho . Viewing will be 550x1000mm infinity style . Pretty much inside the green lines but do need to make sure I center properly

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    Big job that mate
    You waiting for warmer weather?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Big job that mate
    You waiting for warmer weather?
    Gunna order glass now while I have the money ! . Got a raffle off last night on koi Competitions. Com so that's paying for the window. Not sure when I'll get it done tho . Need the nice weather but don't wanna mess the season up to much for the fish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Big miss trace ain't she ! Always full of knowledge! . Cheers dave . Not going massive with the window as its a flat window in a curve wall think it should look OK for what am wanting tho . Viewing will be 550x1000mm infinity style . Pretty much inside the green lines but do need to make sure I center properly

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    Well done on the win mate, Be nice that!

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    Going back to your lights Johnathan,I think 2 x led spots on the left and right shinning towards the far corner would work for you.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Going back to your lights Johnathan,I think 2 x led spots on the left and right shinning towards the far corner would work for you.
    Top man that's exactly what I was thinking and hoping !!!! Pond glass to sealant

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Going back to your lights Johnathan,I think 2 x led spots on the left and right shinning towards the far corner would work for you.
    I'd agree with that.
    you don't want a floods as it will give you too much spread and glare .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Big miss trace ain't she ! Always full of knowledge! . Cheers dave . Not going massive with the window as its a flat window in a curve wall think it should look OK for what am wanting tho . Viewing will be 550x1000mm infinity style . Pretty much inside the green lines but do need to make sure I center properly

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    you don't fancy curvy glass like Ken has in his own pond at corley koi (not the actual name but more memorable and the actual location )


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    Would love curve but about 1k on top !

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    you don't fancy curvy glass like Ken has in his own pond at corley koi (not the actual name but more memorable and the actual location )

    Funny that Dave, as soon as I saw Johnathan picture of his pond. I thought of Ken's pond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Would love curve but about 1k on top !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog1 View Post
    Funny that Dave, as soon as I saw Johnathan picture of his pond. I thought of Ken's pond.
    It would look super cool

    but super expensive at £1k extra!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    It would look super cool

    but super expensive at £1k extra!
    That's the rough idea price when I shopped around a couple years back . Didn't go in to fine detail of angle ect but a £200 flat window literally came back as a 1200 window for a curve . When I think my whole pond and set up filters pumps bricks mortar the lot came in well under 1k no way was I gunna more than double my budget just for a posh window lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    I'd agree with that.
    you don't want a floods as it will give you too much spread and glare .
    More some it like this ?

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    They look adjustable as well Johnathan.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    More some it like this ?

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    if you want lights either side,
    you will get loads of glare from floods in that position unless you shield them like blinkers out of line of sight.
    the spots are more directional so shouldn't get as much glare but they are not as bright as flood lights.
    most LED GU10s are around 6w but should still give you enough light to see them fine i think
    just remember to get higher Kelvin lamps around 6000k if you can, or at least cool white at 4000k

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    I'd use a hybrid sealant, CWD pond shows some good installations of it.
    MS290 pondseals own brand sealant MS300? i think or CT1



    here's Trace's post... I have Trace's T-Tips#1-12 saved in links
    how to fit a pond window to liner part 1 and 2

    T-Tip#5
    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-diy-tip...ng-window.html

    T-Tip#6
    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-diy-tip...ighlight=ms290
    But of a late answer, but also what is used. No issues or leaks for me:



    Wear gloves though, the stuff is a nightmare for staining your hands!


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    Not too sure on those lights Aj,they may give a spot light effect as in shine in one spot,could be wrong though.
    I would think you need something that spreads the light over the back wall in the corner.

    Maybe wrong though mate.
    John

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