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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire_Tom View Post
    And was syphoning back a bit of water…….Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Lol. Still, that is waaaay better than having an actual leak.

    Fingers crossed you finish the fill without any issues. So close now.

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    Haha! That's made me chuckle!
    It's good that you figured it out and good to post your successes and your errors. Koi ponds are complicated beasts and silly mistakes are easily made. We've all had face palm moments.
    2660 Gallons. 4" Bottom Drain and Skimmer. Draco Solum 16 Drum. Anoxic Filtration. Air lift returns.

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    It tickled me. I went straight to all the complicated bits and never even gave the hose a thought. Might save someone else a head scratching hopefully!


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    Ha ha made me laugh Tom,dont kick yourself as easy done mate and bet you were relieved you had it sorted.

    So,onwards and upwards Tom.
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    Well all done for the day! Iíve swapped the sand filter I broke for two blue barrels filled with K1. Piped all of that up first thing.


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    Then topped up and fitted the caps to stop the fish swimming into the airlifts.

    Turning everything on was very satisfying! The airlifts are working and moving water as is the skimmer with the flowfriend. The shower can only run at about 50% power or the dynamic head sucks the pre-filter dry.

    The lily pond canít fill fa at enough to keep up with the return pump at 50% so I may end up making that a closed loop system, but I need to think k about how Iíd adapt it.

    The bottom line is, nearly everything is working as it should and Iím very happy!


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    With regard to your return covers.
    I have an open 110mm return and have yet to have a fish swim up it in 4 years of running this system. Smallest fish is just under 60cm.
    In a previous pond I had a 110mm return and some smaller fish and had no fish swim up it over the 20 years that pond was running.
    They will frequently poke their noses in, but none have ever gone exploring any further.
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    I am very jealous of your airlift setup. It will be well worth the effort, I think.
    2660 Gallons. 4" Bottom Drain and Skimmer. Draco Solum 16 Drum. Anoxic Filtration. Air lift returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukzero View Post
    With regard to your return covers.
    I have an open 110mm return and have yet to have a fish swim up it in 4 years of running this system. Smallest fish is just under 60cm.
    In a previous pond I had a 110mm return and some smaller fish and had no fish swim up it over the 20 years that pond was running.
    They will frequently poke their noses in, but none have ever gone exploring any further.
    Thanks thatís good to know. Itís my first pond so didnít know one way or the other. Glad to hear itís not much of an issue cheers


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alburglar View Post
    I am very jealous of your airlift setup. It will be well worth the effort, I think.
    The turn on was really funny. Itís such a gentle movement and so low pressure I was quite disappointed. Then I went in the pump house and saw my bio was down easily 5Ē if not 6Ē - so it must be pulling. Really decent volume of water. Deceptively efficient!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukzero View Post
    With regard to your return covers.
    I have an open 110mm return and have yet to have a fish swim up it in 4 years of running this system. Smallest fish is just under 60cm.
    In a previous pond I had a 110mm return and some smaller fish and had no fish swim up it over the 20 years that pond was running.
    They will frequently poke their noses in, but none have ever gone exploring any further.
    Same here. I have a 4" pond return from an airlift which is open and have never had a fish swim into it. I've had fish as small as 23cm in the pond with no issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twhitenosugar View Post
    Same here. I have a 4" pond return from an airlift which is open and have never had a fish swim into it. I've had fish as small as 23cm in the pond with no issue.

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    Cheers guys youíve put my mind at rest. You lot have been a gold mine of useful info!


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    Today was my last free day until the new year to work on the pond, so I got as much done as I could.



    I put on the cap stones across the back of the pond (on the vertical face only currently) and a couple on the right hand side of the pic that you can see. That allowed me to put the water blade in place and make the last connection and check that it worked fine (which, thankfully it did!).



    Not sure why the pictures make the slate caps look such a markedly lighter colour - y they arenít. Maybe as they have the light directly on them.

    I didnít get any pictures, but I also commissioned my Burtons BD700 drum. Worked a charm and all working fine, though the first clean cycle washed out all the gunk from commissioning and showed its worth for that alone.

    I have decided to separate the lily pond and the koi pond. The BDís canít cope with feeding the lily pond and the koi point at the same time by quite enough. The dynamic head means the filter and the lily pond are at a significantly lower level than Iíd wanted for the lily pond. Those air lifts shift a hellish amount of water. Because of this, I am going to move those two barrels full of K1 I did yesterday to behind the lily pond and plum it on its own circuit so I can have the water level wherever I want it.

    Last thing I want to change in the new year is the skimmer to shower line. I can run it at 1200rpm no problem, but it is capable of 2550rpm and Iíd like to be able to run it at full chat if I want to. The trouble is the pre-filter. The FlowFriend pump can suck it dry and 1250, so Iím going to do away with the pre-filter and attach it straight to the skimmer line. Because of the size of the JBR skimmers, I donít think k thereís any chance of even the big pump pulling it dry. I plan on compensating for the lack of pre filter by filter foam lining the debris basket so no solids get down there. Then in the summer I can run the shower at full chat if I want to (when the solar panels make it free to do so New pond build - First pond!).

    Iím looking forward to finishing the cap stones to tidy it all up and Iím cautiously starting to think about fish when it warms up next year.

    Final note - I had seeded the filter with mature media from my aquarium and dosed the pond with ammonia on Wednesday last week. I was amazed to get a reading of zero ammonia today and 10ppm nitrate. I need to order a bottle of the nitrite tester so I can monitor the cycle maturing.


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    Looking good Tom

    I don't think the filters are going to develop much at these temps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire_Tom View Post
    The turn on was really funny. It’s such a gentle movement and so low pressure I was quite disappointed. Then I went in the pump house and saw my bio was down easily 5” if not 6” - so it must be pulling. Really decent volume of water. Deceptively efficient!


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    It's really deceptive isn't it. I just thought it was hardly working at all and then the drum triggered and I thought, what the hell is it doing that for and the filter tank had dropped 5" or 6". Which was a great relief.
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    Looking fantastic Tom after the big fill.
    You havnt any fish in there yet have you?
    So wouldn't worry about ammonia etc.

    Where you going for your koi?
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Looking fantastic Tom after the big fill.
    You havnt any fish in there yet have you?
    So wouldn't worry about ammonia etc.

    Where you going for your koi?
    I donít have any fish in there no. I put some mature media from an aquarium in and dosed the pond with ammonia to start growing bugs.

    I am not sure about buying koi yet. Was going to canvass on here for opinions. Iíve found a breeder called Cuttlbrook on the internet thatís on a fairly regularly travelled work route, so might try there.

    Any and all recommendations gratefully received. Thereís a lot of garden centres around me that sell koi but most donít seem to be much other than traders with low or none existent knowledge.


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    Neighbours have been around complaining about the noise of the air pumps. All three were second hand and the 150 litre Evolution Aqua Airtech is noisy. Iíve ordered new diaphragms for all three air pumps.

    They are inside the insulated shed. In peoples experience, should they be audible outside with the doors shut? They are currently. The 150 is quoted at 51dB which isnít particularly loud. But I donít have much to compare it to.


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