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Thread: New Natural look koi pond build
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03-06-2023, 06:26 PM #61
Here's the page and the salt method is down towards the bottom
https://www.mankysanke.co.uk/html/pond_volumes.html________________________________________________
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04-06-2023, 09:26 AM #62
Sounds like a very technical. On a massive volume already filled I suppose there is no alternative. What’s your thoughts of getting it filled and then timescales on getting the filter running. Will the standing water go bad? Do I need to be turning it over with a placeholder solution while the filter house gets set up? Just concious I have a big hole for people to fall into!
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04-06-2023, 09:51 AM #63
My thoughts would be, yes get it filled ASAP and if you can stick a pump and a temporary filter on there to keep the water turning over if you intend to be leaving it for a few weeks before connecting up you proper filters? At least that way you'll know the chlorine and chloramine would have gassed off by the time you start to put any filter media and fish in there.
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All we ever wanted was everything,
All we ever got was cold,
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire,
Squash every week into a day.
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04-06-2023, 04:28 PM #64
Good shout thank you. Hit a bit of a wall as building up another 430mm isn’t an option as didn’t realise drum filters need so much clearance. 250mm on the Burtons. Means the drum will be above ground by quite a bit. Might have to get digging again
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04-06-2023, 07:02 PM #65
I've been having a bit of a suss out as to what to do with the layout of my filters as I haven't done any digging today.
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06-06-2023, 07:31 PM #66
Bit more progress today, my cheap Amazon spade Iv done the hole dig with folded. Went and picked up a Wilkinson sword spade and cant believe Iv spent all this time digging with a blunt spade
I would be finished last week. Oh well. Managed to get down to 5ft and nearly 3ft perimeter (including block missing blocks)
Also think Iv come to the decision on the filtration. Mrs has agreed it’s worth doing once and properly. Thinking of the filtreau combi next. Some mixed reviews but figure if I can get it new from a dealer I’ll be covered with support and a guarantee for a few years. Be good to get any thoughts on this. Just really like the idea of everything in once place and less pipework to deal with. Think I’ll put the skimmer and BD into 2 inlets then out to UV-heater then a choice of waterfall in summer or back to pond under water inlet in winter.
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06-06-2023, 08:13 PM #67
Sounds like a good plan.
Are you going to insulate the pond with Kingspan or Cellotex if you are going to heat it?________________________________________________
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06-06-2023, 08:25 PM #68________________________________________________
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06-06-2023, 08:27 PM #69
Cheers, Iv been doing some research on heating and it seems like a grey area? Are you planning to heat?. I think I just want to keep the pond above 10-12 during the middle of winter not sure I could afford keeping it fully heated all summer. I was thinking of putting some of this down https://www.multifoilsdirect.co.uk/p...SABEgIMJvD_BwE
But reading insulating can affect ground temps in the summer, really undecided.
One thing I haven’t considered is air and how expensive they seem. Any ideas what sort of lph i would need to run the bottom drain and bio unit? Thinking of teeing it all of the same pump. Starting to tally up all the wattages to see what I’m in for monthly.
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06-06-2023, 08:29 PM #70
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06-06-2023, 09:00 PM #71
I've got so much rubbish in the soil that no matter what I use to dig or how sharp it is makes no difference. It's just brut force that works, plenty of breaks and water, get the bulk bag filled and give up for the day.
I'm using a pick axe with a point one side and a chisel shape the other side (you can get them with a point both sides too), a round head shovel and more recently and rake just to help level the bottom off. Normally I would use a Mattock but I think there's too much stone and rubble in it for that but may use it to straighten the side of the hole as the angle is a bit too shallow in places?________________________________________________
All we ever wanted was everything,
All we ever got was cold,
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire,
Squash every week into a day.
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06-06-2023, 09:07 PM #72
I'm not intending to heat mine as I didn't heat the previous one. My new one is slightly deeper and is possibly going to have more of it in the ground so maybe that will help with temperature control? Possibly going to make a polycarbonate winter cover and with this one put something round the side of the pond above ground? The previous pond was always going to have a wall but I could never find anyone to build it for a reasonable price.
Last edited by Frimley Koi keeper; 06-06-2023 at 09:09 PM.
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All we ever wanted was everything,
All we ever got was cold,
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire,
Squash every week into a day.
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06-06-2023, 09:19 PM #73
As for air pumps, I had a 40 lpm or maybe a 60 lpm? With a 4 way manifold with valves on. This was connected to a 200 mm air disc in the pond, a pair of air discs in the IBC bio chamber, another cylindrical air stone in the pond under the filter return and another air diffuser that was in a water butt that I used for cleaning media or used pipe fittings etc. I also had a 20 lpm air pump on a timer switch that I used every time I fed the fish. It had 2 small round air stones hanging under the mouth of the skimmer which was enough to stop the food being drawn into the skimmer before the fish could eat it. Think the timer was set to about 15 minutes. Worked a treat. I also had a little aquarium air pump that ran the Tornado 2 protein skimmer.
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All we ever wanted was everything,
All we ever got was cold,
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire,
Squash every week into a day.
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06-06-2023, 09:23 PM #74Freddyboy the legend
"we are water keepers first"
Johnathan
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06-06-2023, 09:31 PM #75________________________________________________
All we ever wanted was everything,
All we ever got was cold,
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire,
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06-06-2023, 09:39 PM #76Freddyboy the legend
"we are water keepers first"
Johnathan
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06-06-2023, 10:09 PM #77________________________________________________
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06-06-2023, 10:17 PM #78Freddyboy the legend
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06-06-2023, 10:20 PM #79________________________________________________
All we ever wanted was everything,
All we ever got was cold,
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire,
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06-06-2023, 10:23 PM #80Freddyboy the legend
"we are water keepers first"
Johnathan
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