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    Looking great Dave! But how could you cut back on feeding in the peak summer feeding period?? Expect every parasite under the sun to rip through the pond now

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    You’ve got some lovely Koi there Dave.
    What are you feeding them at the moment.

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    Nice one Dave. I’ve subscribed DTF's New Pond


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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    Looking great Dave! But how could you cut back on feeding in the peak summer feeding period?? Expect every parasite under the sun to rip through the pond now
    I'm beginning to think that all this 1kg a day feeding is complete bullshit sold to us by people with a vested interest in selling food...

    might work for tosai and nisai, but not for bigger fish.
    mine are happier, healthier, and still growing very well on a tiny fraction of the food i used to put in....
    Last edited by davethefish1; 24-07-2024 at 02:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin59 View Post
    You’ve got some lovely Koi there Dave.
    What are you feeding them at the moment.
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    not very much compared to what i used to...
    about 100 grammes of my summer pellet mix and 40g of meal worms a day.
    the pellet mix is just 50% saki balance, 25% saki colour, and 25% hikari wheatgerm.

    in winter i just alter the mix to include a much higher percentage of wheatgerm as i hold at 16C over winter.
    Last edited by davethefish1; 24-07-2024 at 02:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrucePondsteen View Post
    Nice one Dave. I’ve subscribed DTF's New Pond


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    Thanks mate

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    So thought I'd update my pond thread since my drum motor failed,
    which caused the water drum to block up and send the pump into a stop start cycle which caused it to fail.

    I got a new motor up and running just on the small bio which caused a small ammonia spike which is back to zero already
    but i have cut feeding down to just a few grams a day.

    I've taken out the shower, old bio chamber and most of the pipework.
    the K1 micro i had in the bio has gone into fine mesh polyester 'football bags' and placed over the air curtain to provide some water movement.
    so i can keep most of the bacteria alive and keep some filtration on the pond while it's being worked on.

    so I can finally get round to fitting the new bigger bio chamber, and re-piping the filter house.
    So the drum is shut off and drained and i dropped the water level in the pond to work on the return pipework and move the valve.

    I've had to take a lot of stuff out to make room to squeeze the bio chamber in.
    but managed to get most of it prepped for lifting it in tomorrow, with my lads help as it weighs a fair bit.

    before the stripout started....





    looking bare...getting there




    Temporary in pond filtration bags

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    wow getting that bio chamber in took a lot longer then i thought it would
    It was a hell of a squeeze too, turning it 90° in the air above the pipework.
    ended up using my B&D workmate to hold it up and spin it, then used the shower supports i took out to hold it up and get the work mate out again...
    just need to get it all piped up,
    on the plus side the temporary bio bags in the pond are keeping ammonia under control while i'm dong this work.



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    Looking smart Dave, Great Work.

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    Loads of room you wouldn't have even got it in my shed

    It's going to be even smarter 'n tidier - if that's possible!
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    Wow Dave that’s a mega bio filter! How much K1 are you expecting to get in it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog1 View Post
    Looking smart Dave, Great Work.
    cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiOgon View Post
    Loads of room you wouldn't have even got it in my shed

    It's going to be even smarter 'n tidier - if that's possible!
    Hopefully less cluttered plus i gain some extra space where the shower was for an extra shelf or 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrucePondsteen View Post
    Wow Dave that’s a mega bio filter! How much K1 are you expecting to get in it?


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    the tank volume is about 560 litres with a water level about 500 litres.
    I have 200 litres of K1+ going in but i'll start with 100litres as i have 100 litres of K1 micro going in that is mature,
    and will stay in the mesh bags until the new media is mature. then slowly remove the K1 micro and add the K1+
    I might add another 50liters of K1+ but i'll see how the 200 litres rolls first.
    i think it's not good to add too much that it starts piling up in the corners, creating dead spots.

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    Up and running now, just waiting for the K1+ to sink
    so i can add the K1 micro in mesh bags from the pond to help it mature.
    then put everything back i ripped out to get it in...











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    Ok officially bored now waiting for this K1+ to stop floating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    Ok officially bored now waiting for this K1+ to stop floating...

    I would add the K1 micro in mesh bags from the pond on top to push the new down under the surface
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiOgon View Post
    I would add the K1 micro in mesh bags from the pond on top to push the new down under the surface
    the K1 micro is already in the filter to spread the bacteria and speed up the maturation,
    but it just sinks down and the K1+ floats over the top.

    just going to have to wait.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    the K1 micro is already in the filter to spread the bacteria and speed up the maturation,
    but it just sinks down and the K1+ floats over the top.

    just going to have to wait.....
    Shouldn't take too long Dave, I found mine would be sinking and sitting properly after a couple of days at 20+, I reckon within a week it'll all be sinking. I did go out as often as I remembered and just pushed it under water to submerge it too, not sure if it helped or not but when I was adding more I was adding about 2-3l every 3ish days but this is in narrow topped barrels so sure you can get away with a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    Shouldn't take too long Dave, I found mine would be sinking and sitting properly after a couple of days at 20+, I reckon within a week it'll all be sinking. I did go out as often as I remembered and just pushed it under water to submerge it too, not sure if it helped or not but when I was adding more I was adding about 2-3l every 3ish days but this is in narrow topped barrels so sure you can get away with a lot more.
    yeah i forgot about waiting for it to roll,
    when i got the k1 micro for the old pond it was in a static filter, and fully mature when i put it in the original bio chamber i built for this pond
    so it rolled immediately.

    If i'd have thought i'd have put the K1+ in mesh bags like the K1 micro... in the pond to mature for a few weeks first.
    woulda, coulda, shoulda.
    Last edited by davethefish1; 30-09-2024 at 10:23 PM.

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