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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Blimey Neil you are like the Terminator - can't be stopped !!!! I'll be back LOL

    But on a serious note -

    Maybe different countries use different ingredients (sorry not the right word but hopefully you know what I am trying to say?) in their cement and as a result some are more toxic or harmful than others?

    Maybe if you can find a PDF on the composition of your cement in Thailand from the company that makes it or supplies it you can post it on here or just google the various items on the list to see what's harmful and what isn't. Then you will have a definitive answer, hopefully.

    Maybe in Thailand the regulations on that type of thing aren't as strict as it in Europe or the UK so maybe more difficult to find anything helpful about it?
    I'll be back.......lol

    That's a great idea about testing a bucket of pond water I will try that tomorrow.
    I'm going with the conservative approach and get them out if the water. I'm holding off for a few days to check and double check that after this big upset for the fish they don't have to go through it again due to my lack of planning.
    Neil

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    It's definitely worth a try either for now or later on maybe?

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    The only thing it won't prove is the presence of other toxic substances which may require further investigation ?

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    Why didn't I think of this. I asked my wife's nephew if he could come over with a few friends to get started on the pillar extensions. He looked at the job in hand and I could see him thinking. He then piped up "uncle Neil" can we do it this way and I'm like WTF didn't I think of that.........

    Anyway he's busy pouring concrete right now, Monday I will waterproof them then on Tuesday we will get the extensions installed along with the RDFPond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pond

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    Lol I bet at first you thought what's this muppet going on about lol

    You often find you can over think certain jobs or problems so sometimes it's better to step back have a break and have a fresh look or get someone else to have a look as you can get bogged down with a particular way of wanting to do something and miss the obvious easier option.

    BTW when I say 'you' it's just used as a generalised term, 'we, us or I' fits but 'you' seems to fit better grammatically if that makes sense?

    I've had the same thing happen many times and it seems the least likely person has spotted something that makes things better, easier or quicker etc.

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    We have a word for people like those lol it's 'smart arse' lol

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    I think your nephew's idea was inspired by this -

    https://www.jaqueslondon.co.uk/produ...-wooden-blocks

    Depending on how old he is he'd either just finished playing with some or has a good memory lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Lol I bet at first you thought what's this muppet going on about lol
    That's exactly what was going through my head,Pond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pondPond repairs with fish in the pond


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Lol I bet at first you thought what's this muppet going on about lol

    You often find you can over think certain jobs or problems so sometimes it's better to step back have a break and have a fresh look or get someone else to have a look as you can get bogged down with a particular way of wanting to do something and miss the obvious easier option.

    BTW when I say 'you' it's just used as a generalised term, 'we, us or I' fits but 'you' seems to fit better grammatically if that makes sense?

    I've had the same thing happen many times and it seems the least likely person has spotted something that makes things better, easier or quicker etc.
    I can't put my finger on it but I remember another light bulb moment he came up with when we were building the pond, what is it they say two heads are better than one

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    Lol depends what context you take it in

    A nod's as good as a wink to a blind man lol

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    Looks like it's coming alone nicely now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndwgolf View Post
    I need to do a few modifications to my pond that involves some cement work. I'm planning to have the brickies in Speedos so that I don't have to remove too much water and at the same time keep the 30+ fish in the pond.
    Question. I will emphasize the importance of not dropping cement into the pond but as you know accidents happen..........how dangerous is cement to Koi ?
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    Neil..

    I wouldn’t do it if I was you... the lime from the cement either by accident or leaching from the finished uncured surface will raise the PH of the pond and dependent on the amounts is likely to kill your fish and any plants you have in there... it’s the age old question of do you want to take the risk.... if you value your pond which looks nice I would get them out into a holding tank and complete the job in an isolated environment.. some people say you can neutralise like by Peforming a vinegar wash after you’ve completed the work... remember changing the PH of a pond dramatically can do more harm than good also...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricey74 View Post
    Neil..

    I wouldn’t do it if I was you... the lime from the cement either by accident or leaching from the finished uncured surface will raise the PH of the pond and dependent on the amounts is likely to kill your fish and any plants you have in there... it’s the age old question of do you want to take the risk.... if you value your pond which looks nice I would get them out into a holding tank and complete the job in an isolated environment.. some people say you can neutralise like by Peforming a vinegar wash after you’ve completed the work... remember changing the PH of a pond dramatically can do more harm than good also...


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    Cheers mate. ALL the cement work was completed outside of the pond so I didn't have to disturb the fish or possibly poison them...all's good
    Thanks

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    So what were the over sized dice used for then? I think I missed that bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    So what were the over sized dice used for then? I think I missed that bit
    You've lost me with that mate?

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    The concrete or cement blocks in the wooden frame. They looked like dice lol

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    Assume they are for raising the sones in the pond?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    So what were the over sized dice used for then? I think I missed that bit
    They are being used to get the large rocks just out of the water............it will become clearer later today.
    Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    Assume they are for raising the sones in the pond?


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    Yea Mike. We should have them in the pond later today and then start working on the RDF installation............I will post a picture when the pond is full so you can see the results of the pillar extensions

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