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    Steve's koi new pond build.

    20200713_120710[1].jpg20200711_211110[1].jpg20200711_211056[1].jpgHello all, It's time to start to build my new pond, just waiting for a few more bits to turn up and the build will be on It's way.
    New home for now and the old pond.

    The swimming pool is up to temporarily house the fish, and I've just put the air stone in to aerate the water.

    Need to learn how to get the pics the right way up and we can start again lol.


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    Good luck with the build. Are you going bigger or just renewing the old one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letimgo View Post
    Good luck with the build. Are you going bigger or just renewing the old one?

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    Thanks mate, Not going any bigger, just renewing everything and changing to a gravity filter instead of the pump to filter I have atm. I'm also going to add a vortex to the existing filter, and a home made bakki.for the skimmer.

    Thanks for looking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve's koi View Post
    20200713_120710[1].jpg20200711_211110[1].jpg20200711_211056[1].jpgHello all, It's time to start to build my new pond, just waiting for a few more bits to turn up and the build will be on It's way.
    New home for now and the old pond.

    The swimming pool is up to temporarily house the fish, and I've just put the air stone in to aerate the water.

    Need to learn how to get the pics the right way up and we can start again lol.

    Good luck with the build will be watching

    Photos I believe if on phone it is cause the way you hold it ie need to hold upright rather than side on
    Portrait / Landscape thing

    May be wrong ?

    wait for the experts to confirm hahaha
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    Blagdon pond oxy 640 ltr/hr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wain View Post
    Good luck with the build will be watching

    Photos I believe if on phone it is cause the way you hold it ie need to hold upright rather than side on
    Portrait / Landscape thing

    May be wrong ?

    wait for the experts to confirm hahaha
    Cheers Wain. Pics were taken on a samsung mate in portrait mode so don't know whats happening. up the hammers lol.

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    Started making the Bakki.


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    The new pond pump and air pump for the temporary home for the fish while I'm building the new pond.


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    The old filter house.

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    Temp pond all up and running, I'm putting 75ml of Bacto plus in every day to help the water and filter, and atm in doing a 50% water change daily to keep the toxins down until the filter builds up.
    Last pic of pool covered up for the night due to the cats next door.
    Going to start ripping the old pond out within the next day or 2.

    Question............how much food should I be feeding while the filter builds up, I'm only feeding minimal atm every other day, but was thinking to stop feeding for a week or 2.


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    just a quick update peeps. Old pond is down and I've got the ply to shutter a concrete collar round the pond so the new sleepers don't sit on dirt. Fish are OK as well.20200807_191729.jpg

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    It's not going to fast, but were getting there. Shuttering for the concrete collar around the pond and filter house is almost finished.
    Just waiting on the reinforcing for the concrete and I'll be doing that next.

    Question......Can I run my returns in the concrete collar as I don't want to see any pipework ?.

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    Can anyone answer my question please. ^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve's koi View Post
    Temp pond all up and running, I'm putting 75ml of Bacto plus in every day to help the water and filter, and atm in doing a 50% water change daily to keep the toxins down until the filter builds up.
    Last pic of pool covered up for the night due to the cats next door.
    Going to start ripping the old pond out within the next day or 2.

    Question............how much food should I be feeding while the filter builds up, I'm only feeding minimal atm every other day, but was thinking to stop feeding for a week or 2.


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    your daily water testing should determine how and when to water change. and how much to feed steve. if nitrite ammonia is high. stop feeding untill back down. also PH and KH mate
    good luck on the build mate.
    fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    your daily water testing should determine how and when to water change. and how much to feed steve. if nitrite ammonia is high. stop feeding untill back down. also PH and KH mate
    good luck on the build mate.
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    Thanks for the reply Fred, but I men't the question in post 10 regarding returns to pond .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve's koi View Post
    It's not going to fast, but were getting there. Shuttering for the concrete collar around the pond and filter house is almost finished.
    Just waiting on the reinforcing for the concrete and I'll be doing that next.

    Question......Can I run my returns in the concrete collar as I don't want to see any pipework ?.

    Thanks for looking in.
    I don’t think I would install them this way as I reckon it would weaken the collar. If the collar would fail I would bet it would fail where you returns are placed if you done it this way. I’m no expert though but that would concern me if it was my pond. How high above the collar will the water level be? As the higher you go will be more pressure on that collar. If you don’t go hi above ground you may get away with it. But if you going couple foot above ground with that pressure I wouldn’t chance doing it they way you considering. All the best Steve's koi new pond build.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve's koi View Post
    Thanks for the reply Fred, but I men't the question in post 10 regarding returns to pond .
    i have never heard of pond returns coming out of a coller or pond base before. only out of wall structure or above pond. like waterfalls and mid and bottom returns. water shoots.
    i tend to agree with chaz. maybe t would be a weak point. i have mid returns that you don t see pipe work that go under ground into the wall 2 foot of the bottom. the only time the pipe work is above ground
    is in my filter house. my in wall skimmer you can see that pipe work. on the outer of the pond.
    maybe some one in construction industry can answer the question for you.
    fred

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    Hi Charco and Fred.

    From top of collar the new sleepers will raise the pond by 18". The collar it's self will be 8" w & 12" H, with 12mm reinforcing rods right round the collar. The deepest part of the pond is 4' 6" to top of collar, so will be 6ft to top of sleepers, which is half the pond, the other half of the pond will be 4ft deep inc sleepers. Total size of pond is 20ft x 10ft.

    The thing is I didn't want any pipework showing on the outside of the pond, I think it spoils the look. Maybe I should bury the pipes 1st before I concrete the collar. I don't know, I'm going round in circles at the moment .

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    My pipe work was all buried and glued first
    Under ground. Then built around and a over them. Here is a photo of of bottom drain and 2x returns
    And filter house being built around them.
    So all placed under ground first. Same with sewer waste to drains.
    Fred

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    Cheers for that Fred. I think I'll bury the returns under the collar 1st mate. O well, shuttering out and more digging .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve's koi View Post
    Cheers for that Fred. I think I'll bury the returns under the collar 1st mate. O well, shuttering out and more digging .
    should lend you the dog as you can see he decided to dig them out. not the dog i have now. he has passed on. but this one is as bad. and autograph the cement haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    should lend you the dog as you can see he decided to dig them out. not the dog i have now. he has passed on. but this one is as bad. and autograph the cement haha

    I wondered why it wasn't a finished surface. I'll be round to pick the dog up in about an hour .
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