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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Bass View Post
    yep I am doing much the same with my media maturing in my smaller pond and it gives me extra time to do the pipework overwinter then start slowly introducing fish once a fish less cycle has helped to mature the media by the spring and thatís 2 years after I started too
    What's another few months Mike !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slays View Post
    As I understand it you need the fish in the pond with the nice bacteria New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!) to mature a pond..... I really donít see a need to run the system without fish.... what am I missing!?


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    Your not missing anything mate, me personally don't see the point in adding any fish now, I'd only gave to cover it in 6 weeks time. I'll just wait till spring.

    My ponds not finished yet and may not be a a good few weeks yet, due to various reasons.

    If yours is ready then crack on New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)

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    Mine is three meters from kitchen window & dining area's patio doors so even if snowed over I can watch the fish through the window from inside the house lol !

    Whoop whoop anyone recommend a fish seller

    Quote Originally Posted by jayjt29 View Post
    Your not missing anything mate, me personally don't see the point in adding any fish now, I'd only gave to cover it in 6 weeks time. I'll just wait till spring.

    My ponds not finished yet and may not be a a good few weeks yet, due to various reasons.

    If yours is ready then crack on New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slays View Post
    As I understand it you need the fish in the pond with the nice bacteria New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!) to mature a pond..... I really donít see a need to run the system without fish.... what am I missing!?


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    by running without fish you can add ammonia and reach high levels without risk to any fish yet getting the bacteria growing in the bio system. In my case I can do water changes from my heavily stocked (65 fish) 1000gallon pond into the 3200 gallon pond Thus the bigger pond will have the equivalent of about 20 fish waste without the risk of New Pond Syndrome spikes damaging the fish who are still safely in the smaller pond with a mature bio system Working as normal
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjt29 View Post
    What's another few months Mike !

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    Exactly Jay I will be using all the winter time to get the rest of the pipework and filter house just right & get the flow tweaked before worrying about having fish in there if I have to stop the pumps and alter the system in any way.
    The fish I have will be ok where they are until I start to slowly introduce the bigger koi. All of the non Koi & smaller nisai will stay in the smaller pond next year.
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    It makes sense. Up until after weeks back I was planning on adding a couple, but now times ticking away, think it's best to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjt29 View Post
    It makes sense. Up until after weeks back I was planning on adding a couple, but now times ticking away, think it's best to wait.

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    Itís end of season.... a lot of koi sellers are discounting their stock!


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    Itís end of season.... a lot of koi sellers are discounting their stock!


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    Get yourself some bargains then New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjt29 View Post
    It makes sense. Up until after weeks back I was planning on adding a couple, but now times ticking away, think it's best to wait.

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    Time spent getting things right now save loads of heartache and trouble when up & running.

    I did the same when building the 1000gallon pond from having a smaller in ground 500 gallon pond . I took my time and whether it was down to Planning & a lot of luck But I had no issues in the past three years. That pond took about a year to do then upgraded with a drum filter & anoxic baskets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slays View Post
    It’s end of season.... a lot of koi sellers are discounting their stock!


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    oh I know don’t tempt me more than the dealers are already, but I have to think to myself is it fair to the fish in new surroundings this time of the year unless your heating the pond Which I am not (yet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slays View Post
    As I understand it you need the fish in the pond with the nice bacteria New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!) to mature a pond..... I really don’t see a need to run the system without fish.... what am I missing!?

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    Running your system even without fish will help to stop the water in there just going stagnant, green and horrible.
    But also it’s an opportunity to get the bio media matured before fish. If you’re not heating though there is not very much point trying to get your filters going this late on in the year (in the uk), because it’s very hard to get the bacteria to colonise the media for the first time in low temperatures.

    Its actually much easier to mature some of your media indoors in aerated dustbins. See Fishless cycling
    Your friends and family will think you’ve lost the plot if you do this, but it’s like a real live chemistry experiment only much more fun.

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    I have some HQ fish still for sale which you won’t believe are end of season stock

    Cheers

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    Oh well letís see if we got any leaks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slays View Post

    Oh well letís see if we got any leaks!


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    Good luck mate New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)

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    Two pieces of wood were for stepladder... figured they would float out!


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    Sooo slow with trickle feed


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    Well itís full & the only known small leak is on the pump connector which I expect it to dry up as itís really slight & only really happened when I first turned the pump on... Although I have a must larger issue with the skimmer not ingesting enough water to skim!!! (I know you guys warned me about how I was gonna set up) so canít be bothered to drain & fix now so will take time to think how best to resolve.


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    Problem aside, looks good mate New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)New Build (Advice Greatly Appreciated!)

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    Yeah looks good mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Yeah looks good mate
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    Found my cat sat staring through the window memorized by the bubbles... Both my cat's ate all my goldfish & frogs in my nature pond so will get the netting installed before fish!

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