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    Toms pond improvement/build

    Hello everyone


    First of all I hope everyone is staying safe and well at this time!?


    I have recently moved into my first home, which came with a pond
    The lady who sold me the house gave me very little information on maintaining the pond/fish. Basically I have been left with a bag of pellets and told to trim the rushes occasionally. Having done some research online I can see there is a lot more to it than that.


    Today I opened the pump/filter box which was filled with sludge. I cleaned everything out with pond water as to not mess with the ph? I am going to do this again in 48 hours and once a week going forward?


    There are some koi in the pond as well as goldfish and what look to be some hybrids? Not really sure what is what.
    Also there are various plants in there.


    First of all I would like some advice on what I should do first to create a healthy environment for the fish I already have in there?


    Should I remove the goldfish ASAP if I just want to keep koi and where can I take them if I do remove them aha?


    The pond is only about 2ft deep at its deepest point, is this deep enough for koi? If not I was thinking about building above the decking by a foot or two, is this easy enough to do on my own?


    Lastly having just moved in to my first home money is tight so preferably ideas that aren’t going to cost a fortune

    Thank you for taking the time to read my post, any information at all will be helpful as I’m new to this.
    I look forward to reading your replies

    Here are some pictures of what I have got to start with




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    Images aren’t showing on my phone
    Trying to upload them from my iPhone, anyone know why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T20tom View Post
    Images arenít showing on my phone
    Trying to upload them from my iPhone, anyone know why?
    Use a app called tapatalk

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    Hi mate I'm no expert as I'm in the process of building my first pond. But I've done a lot of research But 2ft is not deep enough for koi. They should have a minimum of 4ft really. I suppose it depends on what you want. If you want koi then pond needs to be twice as deep so like you said build above decking. But looking at the shape of the pond. That won't be the easiest job to do. I think if it were me I'd find another home for the koi and keep the goldfish in the pond you have.
    But like I said it all depends on what you want

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    It looks a nice pond, a little like my first pond, I had a few koi in that but as already said its not deep enough really for koi, you will find that the filter will need cleaning regularly as its very similar to my old one, I would leave the goldfish, they aren't doing any harm, I still have goldfish in my pond (not happy about it) but they add colour and movement

    To be perfectly honest I would concentrate on the house first as the pond can take over everything and to do it right costs money, I did mine cheap at only £5500 ish, materials only and I already had a £2000 filter setup but this was built up over time, starting with a pond of your size
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinley1979 View Post
    Hi mate I'm no expert as I'm in the process of building my first pond. But I've done a lot of research But 2ft is not deep enough for koi. They should have a minimum of 4ft really. I suppose it depends on what you want. If you want koi then pond needs to be twice as deep so like you said build above decking. But looking at the shape of the pond. That won't be the easiest job to do. I think if it were me I'd find another home for the koi and keep the goldfish in the pond you have.
    But like I said it all depends on what you want

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    Thatís what I was worried about, after the little research I have done over the last two days it does seem too shallow. Best of luck with your pond and il keep you updated with what happens to mine! Toms pond improvement/build


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    It looks a nice pond, a little like my first pond, I had a few koi in that but as already said its not deep enough really for koi, you will find that the filter will need cleaning regularly as its very similar to my old one, I would leave the goldfish, they aren't doing any harm, I still have goldfish in my pond (not happy about it) but they add colour and movement

    To be perfectly honest I would concentrate on the house first as the pond can take over everything and to do it right costs money, I did mine cheap at only £5500 ish, materials only and I already had a £2000 filter setup but this was built up over time, starting with a pond of your size
    Thank you for taking the time to reply!

    I did think from the little research I have done that it is too shallow to house a proper koi collection.
    Think il hold onto the goldfish for a little while longer then Toms pond improvement/build
    That is a bit out of my price range right now, but definitely could be done over the next year or so.
    Think itís best I do a lot more research, provide a clean healthy environment for the fish I have already got and then make a solid plan for how Iím going to build a bigger pond

    Thank you once again


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    You need a test kit to keep your water healthy for the fish. That's a start.
    To test ammonia nitrite nitrate ph.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1805068079

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    My first pond. ok the second, well the first was a wildlife puddle .
    it was a liner with a box filter, the koi died (2of them) I changed this for a multi bay with a uv which worked fine.
    you could just get rid of the shelves dig down and pop a new liner in.
    get a second hand filter a nexus 200 or a multibay and uv unit.
    this would get you going and you could plan a proper build if you get the bug

    ive also pondered the quest and yes, get rid of the gold fish

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