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    How to finish your affinity window....

    Good morning all,

    I need to finish off the affinity window, i am in two minds wether to neaten up the sealant or to use some angled trunking to finish off into the corners and wondered what you have done with yours, i think that for the true affinity effect i need to neatly cut the sealant back and carefully paint up to the glass however a plastic quadrant would also look neat and probably offer the same effect?? pics 1 to 4

    Also as you can see i need to seal the gap between the front of the window and the patio slabs and wondered what product / sealant i should use for this, i guess a black or or clear sealant would be best, there is always a small amount of water in the gap from the rain so a product that you can apply wet would be preferable, pics 5 and 6 - Thanks Steve


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    personally i would just neaten it up to keep it minimal, the edging looks like you are trying to hide stuff, masking tape and some sealant get those edges crispy!

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    I don't think the quadrant looks bad, but a straight edge and a new stanley blade would tidy it up.
    Gold Label pond sealant would go in your wet gap. Ooh err missus...
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    Ditch the Gold Label...see Trace’s tip #9 about equivalent sealants for loads less money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcarpchaser View Post
    Ditch the Gold Label...see Trace’s tip #9 about equivalent sealants for loads less money.


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    hi BCC where can I find this info ref Trace's tip ?

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    Ditto. I can't find it on the search function
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    Trace's post is quite comprehensive and a good read, but I can't find it.

    This stuff will do the job:

    https://www.idealsealants.com/ideals...ive-290ml-p144

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    All traces stuff is awesome like I can remember reading it but can't find it for some reason

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    From memory Trace was saying PU sealants are best for some things and MS Polymer sealants for others. He/She tested a lot of sealants and then tried to rip them apart.

    Overall there wasn't much between them but I only remember MS290 because I think Trace said this was the strongest when sealing EPDM to EPDM and that part of my build was the most critical, so I did everything in MS290.

    If you search MS290 on here you'll see a few people have used it with success for sealing windows, which is why I suggested it.

    Think I read that Gold Label contains exactly the same ingredients as some of the much cheaper trade type sealants, can't remember specifically which one, but it was 1/4 of the price.

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    Hahah she. Good job she is not on here any more or she'd have ya haha

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    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app gone over some pms from trace and found the link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Hahah she. Good job she is not on here any more or she'd have ya haha

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    Pretty sure she was a she, but i said she once before and someone corrected me that she was a he lol.

    Anyway, she's definitely a She, cos I just found this thread where she's provided some good snippets of info about sealants:

    https://www.koiforum.uk/welcome-extr...t=ms290+window

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    No links then 2 turn up haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app gone over some pms from trace and found the link

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    Ha ha.... We both pulled up 2 threads from her at the same time, with the same info!

    BEWARE..... in the thread you linked to she mentions the banned words..... "Koi T*x"

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    I'll say my good bys now mate hahah fair well every one nice knowing you I'll go join trace now then haha

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    CT! can be used on wet surfaces but i would dry as much as possible so your not sealing in any water,as said a straight painted edge looks neater,or a thin piece of rounded quadrant would look nice,you can get it in white plastic,,,andi

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    thanks for all the replies chaps, much appreciated, Steve.

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    Will ms290 set under water then, like gold label does?
    Polyurethane sealants don't lIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alburglar View Post
    Will ms290 set under water then, like gold label does?
    Polyurethane sealants don't lIRC.
    Here you go mate. I have used it under water. On my pond window. Also on the entry plate on my nexus. Its advisable to give a little sanding on certain things like I did on fiber glass. For bonding. Also certain plastics.

    Idealseal MS290 MS Polymer Sealant And Adhesive 290ml*

    DESCRIPTION
    Idealseal MS290 is the ultimate all-round sealant and adhesive based on new MS Polymer Technology offering a durable, flexible, environmentally friendly alternative to traditional sealants, adhesives and putty. MS290 uses an anti-pick, non-toxic, low V.O.C. formulation; free of isocyanates, solvents and silicones. It has excellent adhesion to dry and wet surfaces without the risk of shrinkage or bubbling and will even cure underwater. In addition it is paintable with all common paints, odourless, neutral and is suitable for food contact. Tested and approved for use with self-cleaning glass and in food preparation areas by ISEGA to EN1186, EN13130 and CEN/TS 14234.*
    USES
    Idealseal MS290 is suitable for virtually any application where a sealant, adhesive or filler is required. It will seal and bond glass including self-cleaning glass, porcelain, coated metal, epoxy and polyester panels, EPDM, plastics, fibreglass, vinyl, PVCu, stainless steel, anodised aluminium and finished wood. It also has excellent anti-pick qualities making this product suitable for use in correctional institutions and areas where vandalism of sealant may occur. Furthermore it may be used safely in food preparation areas and cold storage.*
    APPLICATION

    Fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Here you go mate. I have used it under water. On my pond window. Also on the entry plate on my nexus. Its advisable to give a little sanding on certain things like I did on fiber glass. For bonding. Also certain plastics.

    Idealseal MS290 MS Polymer Sealant And Adhesive 290ml*

    DESCRIPTION
    Idealseal MS290 is the ultimate all-round sealant and adhesive based on new MS Polymer Technology offering a durable, flexible, environmentally friendly alternative to traditional sealants, adhesives and putty. MS290 uses an anti-pick, non-toxic, low V.O.C. formulation; free of isocyanates, solvents and silicones. It has excellent adhesion to dry and wet surfaces without the risk of shrinkage or bubbling and will even cure underwater. In addition it is paintable with all common paints, odourless, neutral and is suitable for food contact. Tested and approved for use with self-cleaning glass and in food preparation areas by ISEGA to EN1186, EN13130 and CEN/TS 14234.*
    USES
    Idealseal MS290 is suitable for virtually any application where a sealant, adhesive or filler is required. It will seal and bond glass including self-cleaning glass, porcelain, coated metal, epoxy and polyester panels, EPDM, plastics, fibreglass, vinyl, PVCu, stainless steel, anodised aluminium and finished wood. It also has excellent anti-pick qualities making this product suitable for use in correctional institutions and areas where vandalism of sealant may occur. Furthermore it may be used safely in food preparation areas and cold storage.*
    APPLICATION

    Fred

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    thanks Fred....

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