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    'Maybe' Thursday could be the day but its a big 'maybe'

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    Finally have the majority of the pipework now which arrived today. Have started plumbing the drum in although didn't get too far today as started around 1pm and it still hadn't drained down to the point of where I need it to be before dark! Managed to move my filter around though and make the space to stick the shelf in for the drum tomorrow so hopefully will get the majority if not all done tomorrow! Only down side is my bio is now probably dry so will be dead I guess but no way of helping that with nowhere to put it submerged in pond water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    Finally have the majority of the pipework now which arrived today. Have started plumbing the drum in although didn't get too far today as started around 1pm and it still hadn't drained down to the point of where I need it to be before dark! Managed to move my filter around though and make the space to stick the shelf in for the drum tomorrow so hopefully will get the majority if not all done tomorrow! Only down side is my bio is now probably dry so will be dead I guess but no way of helping that with nowhere to put it submerged in pond water.
    Not get any blanking plugs for toolstation etc top bio back up with pond water ?

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    unfortunately not, plus I wouldn't be able to move the filter cause it weighs so much! Hard enough without water in with the Bio! Time to crack on!

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    Another update, main BD-drum-roto gravity shower-pump-returns line is complete although not got the water supply to the drum nor the electricity side of it done as of yet. Got the tank connector in place today for the surface skimmer, need more 3" waste pipe though so can't finish that yet. Also need some 3" pipe clampss to support the skimmer line as it has about 1.75m to travel from the skimmer to the drum inlet and only have the 4" sized clamps. Least the CT1 has a decent amount of time to go off now anyway! Things are finally coming together at last!

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    So I have my outside tap, but I want to run MPDE underground and into the filter bay to connect to the drum. I need some sort of T to put between the tap and the supply so I can still have a tap and also have the water running through the MDPE, does anyone know what this T looks like or is it just the same sort of one you would find behind a washing machine etc with the little blue tap?

    My other questions I have good pressure from the tap which I would need to maintain for the efficiency of the drum and obviously a normal long hose pipe doesn't provide this but I am thinking will I be better to run the wider MDPE pipe like 32mm for better pressure or will 20mm or 25mm be sufficient? The plan would be to run the MPDE into the filter bay then have a hose tape or whatever at the end with a short length of hose to the drum.

    Also, as I am running the solenoid system rather than pressure pump on the drum, this means the water is simply sprayed into the waste chute more or less so will not effect the pond depth at all. Would it be a waste to run this through my big blue? I am thinking I would just use the big blue for the water changes rather than messing about running the drum water feed through it and effectively cleaning water that is going down the drain.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
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    So I have my outside tap, but I want to run MPDE underground and into the filter bay to connect to the drum. I need some sort of T to put between the tap and the supply so I can still have a tap and also have the water running through the MDPE, does anyone know what this T looks like or is it just the same sort of one you would find behind a washing machine etc with the little blue tap?

    My other questions I have good pressure from the tap which I would need to maintain for the efficiency of the drum and obviously a normal long hose pipe doesn't provide this but I am thinking will I be better to run the wider MDPE pipe like 32mm for better pressure or will 20mm or 25mm be sufficient? The plan would be to run the MPDE into the filter bay then have a hose tape or whatever at the end with a short length of hose to the drum.

    Also, as I am running the solenoid system rather than pressure pump on the drum, this means the water is simply sprayed into the waste chute more or less so will not effect the pond depth at all. Would it be a waste to run this through my big blue? I am thinking I would just use the big blue for the water changes rather than messing about running the drum water feed through it and effectively cleaning water that is going down the drain.

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    i just tapped off the hose union like this for my MDPE.
    unless you are running miles, 20mm mdpe will be fine,
    and i wouldn't dechlorinate it as it's going straight to waste,
    plus the chlorine will keep the screen clean


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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    i just tapped off the hose union like this for my MDPE.
    unless you are running miles, 20mm mdpe will be fine,
    and i wouldn't dechlorinate it as it's going straight to waste,
    plus the chlorine will keep the screen clean

    Anyone would think you are a pipe fitter mate lol . Seeing how tidy yours mate makes me want to do the same
    Sam told is to use mdpe but I was being greedy not wanting to

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    i just tapped off the hose union like this for my MDPE.
    unless you are running miles, 20mm mdpe will be fine,
    and i wouldn't dechlorinate it as it's going straight to waste,
    plus the chlorine will keep the screen clean


    I already have the hose splitter so I will run it off that, thanks again Dave, I should have just addressed the post to you really as I knew you'd be my saviour once again! It will be running about 7m of pipe in total, its a shame everywhere seems to only do 25m lengths!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    I already have the hose splitter so I will run it off that, thanks again Dave, I should have just addressed the post to you really as I knew you'd be my saviour once again! It will be running about 7m of pipe in total, its a shame everywhere seems to only do 25m lengths!
    yeah only used just over half of mine, and skipped the rest...
    got mine from toolstation £20 ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    yeah only used just over half of mine, and skipped the rest...
    got mine from toolstation £20 ish
    Got one opening in Sudbury although not sure when, luckily got to go to Bury to get some 3" waste pipe to finish the skimmer line anyway so will grab some then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    Got one opening in Sudbury although not sure when, luckily got to go to Bury to get some 3" waste pipe to finish the skimmer line anyway so will grab some then.
    we've got 2 in bedworth/nuneaton now
    one inside wickes, and one has just opened next door to screwfix just up the road from me

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    A little update, managed to finish the drain pipework from the drain. Makes a huge difference when draining the pond thats for sure, close the BD to drum line, open the purge valve and whoosh!

    Lowered the filter and raised the drum today, my flow is better now but still needs a bit more of a drop to get the pump running full wack. Can run it about 70% on a 20k dm vario currently. No patio yet but more bits done to get towards the goal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    A little update, managed to finish the drain pipework from the drain. Makes a huge difference when draining the pond thats for sure, close the BD to drum line, open the purge valve and whoosh!

    Lowered the filter and raised the drum today, my flow is better now but still needs a bit more of a drop to get the pump running full wack. Can run it about 70% on a 20k dm vario currently. No patio yet but more bits done to get towards the goal!
    No patio what you doing day dreaming on the job lol haha .



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    I still have time, Frim ain't finished yet has he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samp09 View Post
    I still have time, Frim ain't finished yet has he?
    Going by that think you still have about 18 months yet lol

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    Good to hear you got things working ok for you,it can be hard to get the drum at the right level took me 3 attempts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Good to hear you got things working ok for you,it can be hard to get the drum at the right level took me 3 attempts.
    Thanks John, I's getting there slowly but surely!

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    It's been a while so I thought I would add a few update pictures from December to now.
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    Sorry the picture has rotated but this is the drain being put in running straight from the waste off the drum and so I could add a purge to the BD.

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    And again annoyingly. This was back in December, the shape for the patio was dug and compacted with sub base.

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    Then the sleepers went in and were treated with the all natural wood treatment as John recommended.

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    Patio drainage added, you can see the colour of the sleepers after a few weeks of maturing as the colour changes. They were almost black after the initial coating, my missus was not pleased!

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    And where we are more or less now. Although spent an hour today mixing some concrete to lay along the pipe and in the hole surrounding where it goes in the filter bay so when the pipe is covered with sub base, it can't sag in the middle from the weight meaning water can collect.

    Next job is to stick another drain in along the wall by the door to the left of the picture and plumb into the pipe somehow, will probably use a smaller diameter pipe for that area and then once that's complete, its a case of levelling the sub base the final time and compacting then laying the patio finally!

    I will need a bung for the drains as when I purged the bottom drain the other day, all the crap came flying out in the drain thats currently fitted, we are talking a mixture of algae, dead blanketweed and fish crap and it still stinks!! Obviously the force is huge and thats the least resistance route so will have to remember to block them both when its finished.

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