Welcome to Koi Forum. Is this your first visit? Register
TuffX Glass
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 38
  1. #1

    Connecting it all up

    Hey guys I’m looking at making my moving bed but may have hit a wall straight away il attach sum pictures which will show what I mean I have purchased a 100l water tank but it steps down on the sides as can be seen in the pictures. I’m looking at getting the flanges but realised i haven’t got much room to work with. I’m buying a stand along Draco drum solem 16 which has 4”outlets so il asuming il have to have a 4” dropping down to (hopefully if it fits) a 3”. Reason I say if it fits is I only have just over 12cm to work with but am aware I could slightly trim back the flange to make it fit but then fun the risk of not havnt a large seal area... if that makes sense. Please see below pics of what I’m working with and what I want the inside to be like! Cheers IMG_9152.JPGIMG_9153.JPGIMG_9157.JPGIMG_9156.JPG


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk



  2. Thanks sephuk, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  3. #2
    personally id have no issues dropping down to 2 inch if needed, slow in and slow out = dwell time

  4. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  5. #3
    Oooooh schoolboy error. I have made the same slip up myself in the past.

    Solutions....

    1) Get different containers.
    2) Just go with 4 inch and use a LOT of sealant (not ideal if it is under pressure)
    3 Flow into the top or bottom of the tank.
    4) Step the connection from 4 inch to 2 inch (or 3 inch if it will fit)

    I dont have a drum yet so i might be talking absolute nonsense here but if you go with option 3, make sure you wont cause anything to overflow in the drum. To make this less likely to happen, you could consider....

    5) Teeing the 4 inch pipe then stepping down to 3 or 2 inch. Or even putting a T after the T giving you 3 inputs (because 2 x 2 inch pipes wont flow as much as 1 x 4 inch)

  6. #4
    Senior Member Rank = Rokusai Simon Fish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    357
    Thanks / Likes
    485
    Its essentially a 25 gallon cold water storage tank.
    There available with flat sides.
    If you reduce the pipe diameter you are still limited to the height being within one of the flat areas.

    https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Cold...allon/p/443154
    The lids are sold separately

  7. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  8. #5

    Connecting it all up

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Fish View Post
    Its essentially a 25 gallon cold water storage tank.
    There available with flat sides.
    If you reduce the pipe diameter you are still limited to the height being within one of the flat areas.

    https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Cold...allon/p/443154
    The lids are sold separately
    Yeah very similar probably a better option to be fair but already purchased this one had it few months now so have to give this one a go!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Last edited by charco123; 15-12-2019 at 01:57 AM.

  9. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahsoka Tancho View Post
    Oooooh schoolboy error. I have made the same slip up myself in the past.

    Solutions....

    1) Get different containers.
    2) Just go with 4 inch and use a LOT of sealant (not ideal if it is under pressure)
    3 Flow into the top or bottom of the tank.
    4) Step the connection from 4 inch to 2 inch (or 3 inch if it will fit)

    I dont have a drum yet so i might be talking absolute nonsense here but if you go with option 3, make sure you wont cause anything to overflow in the drum. To make this less likely to happen, you could consider....

    5) Teeing the 4 inch pipe then stepping down to 3 or 2 inch. Or even putting a T after the T giving you 3 inputs (because 2 x 2 inch pipes wont flow as much as 1 x 4 inch)
    I no mate noddy move but you live and learn this hole pond game is one lesson but slowly getting there Connecting it all up


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  10. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    personally id have no issues dropping down to 2 inch if needed, slow in and slow out = dwell time
    Yeah that’s what I have gone with for now mate but they guy at koi logic said I can always have 4” going into a t then having a elbow at the end with to adaptores going down to 2” flanges if needed. Il have a lil play and see how it all works out! Cheers mate! Connecting it all up


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  11. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  12. #8
    Thought I would post this incase anyone else had similar issue. As I don’t have a large enough service area for the 4” connector into moving bed I’m opting for 2 2inches in which I’m going to use a reducing t peice and a reducing rubber connector! Had a look and this is the cheapest option. Got to use what I already have as ordered the tank few months back. See attached pictures of how I’m doing it... IMG_9188.JPGIMG_9186.JPGIMG_9183.JPG


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  13. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  14. #9
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Supreme Champion john1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    N.Wales.
    Posts
    8,681
    Thanks / Likes
    15206
    If it was me Charco I would fit the 4ins tank connecter, with 5ins to play with you would get it ok use plenty of silicon and roughened up the plastic a bit.
    John

  15. Thanks Ajm, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  16. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    If it was me Charco I would fit the 4ins tank connecter, with 5ins to play with you would get it ok use plenty of silicon and roughened up the plastic a bit.
    I can’t mate the tank hasn’t got the service area to do so. So that’s why I was opting for two 2”... that said I spoke to a guy today who said drums are a f-Ing nightmare and to go with a sieve and bead filter. I got to be honest once again I feel like jacking the hole thing it! Gets on my nerves the lot of this pain in the arse big time Connecting it all upConnecting it all upConnecting it all upConnecting it all up


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  17. Thanks john1, Ajm, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  18. #11
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Supreme Champion john1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    N.Wales.
    Posts
    8,681
    Thanks / Likes
    15206
    Maybe I am not with you Charco, you say you havnt got the service area to fit a 4ins connecter but your tape measure shows 5ins so maybe I am missing something?

    As for the Draco,I have the stand alone 25 and it is the best bit of kit I have ever bought for my pond,dont know about beads etc but drums are the way to go.
    John

  19. Thanks Ajm, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  20. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Maybe I am not with you Charco, you say you havnt got the service area to fit a 4ins connecter but your tape measure shows 5ins so maybe I am missing something?

    As for the Draco,I have the stand alone 25 and it is the best bit of kit I have ever bought for my pond,dont know about beads etc but drums are the way to go.
    Yeah but with the tank connector it just won’t fit. And I want it to look neat so that’s why I opted for the 2 2” but when I went to order the t piece today the guy shot down those Draco’s big time said he got all of them taken off he’s ponds constant troubles and he said that the 2 2” tank connectors would be a huge pain in the arse along side the drum trying to even flow.... sounds like one huge headache. Think I’m guna forget the hole thing for a while. Just frustrating.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  21. Thanks john1, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  22. #13
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Supreme Champion john1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    N.Wales.
    Posts
    8,681
    Thanks / Likes
    15206
    Cant get my head round why a 4ins tank connecter wont fit,doesn't matter if a couple of the screws dont line up,on the Inside just trim the plate to fit as long as you have plenty of silicone.
    John

  23. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  24. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Cant get my head round why a 4ins tank connecter wont fit,doesn't matter if a couple of the screws dont line up,on the Inside just trim the plate to fit as long as you have plenty of silicone.
    Depends if your talking about including the tank connector? If not I wouldn’t chance it myself to much of a shoddy job waiting to leak that way... my thoughts anyway. You had any issues with ya Draco John ??


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  25. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  26. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Cant get my head round why a 4ins tank connecter wont fit,doesn't matter if a couple of the screws dont line up,on the Inside just trim the plate to fit as long as you have plenty of silicone.
    Reread this sorry, it honestly won’t fit on with the tank connector it’s a no go we tried in the shop .


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  27. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  28. #16
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Supreme Champion john1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    N.Wales.
    Posts
    8,681
    Thanks / Likes
    15206
    Ok up to you Charco, not had any issues with the Draco been going well for 2 yrs now and the pond has never been better in my 25 yrs of keeping koi.
    Ok its mechanical so something will break one day.
    John

  29. Thanks Ajm, charco123, freddyboy, anne Thanked / Liked this Post
  30. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Ok up to you Charco, not had any issues with the Draco been going well for 2 yrs now and the pond has never been better in my 25 yrs of keeping koi.
    Ok its mechanical so something will break one day.
    Cheers John just having a hard time with it all at mo. Investing money in things that I now think I’m wasting money on. Guna have a few days away from it. Thanks for the advice


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  31. Thanks john1, Ajm, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  32. #18
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Supreme Champion john1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    N.Wales.
    Posts
    8,681
    Thanks / Likes
    15206
    Dont blame you mate,better to take your time and have a good think about it than do something you later regret.
    John

  33. Thanks Ajm, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  34. #19
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Adult Champion anne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    1,507
    Thanks / Likes
    3638
    Charco 123...….Why don't you contact Andy 1671 on here, he's from Dartford, aren't you ? another pair
    of eyes and all that sure he won't mind...…….

  35. Thanks john1, trapper, Ajm, freddyboy, charco123 Thanked / Liked this Post
  36. #20

    Connecting it all up

    Quote Originally Posted by anne View Post
    Charco 123...….Why don't you contact Andy 1671 on here, he's from Dartford, aren't you ? another pair
    of eyes and all that sure he won't mind...…….
    Cheers anne seems there’s a lot of guys from dartford on here... don’t think I reconise that user name though. Is he the guy with the black lab in his pic ?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Last edited by charco123; 21-12-2019 at 02:30 PM.

  37. Thanks freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:16 AM. Online Koi Mag Forum
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3
Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.

vBulletin Improved By vBFoster® (Lite Version), © UltimateScheme, Ltd.