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    Decent pond liners / underlay

    Hey guys Iím ordering liner and under lay just thought Iíd ask what brands to go for or to not go for. Not going to fibreglass as cant see me staying in this house more than another 4 years. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    Hey guys Iím ordering liner and under lay just thought Iíd ask what brands to go for or to not go for. Not going to fibreglass as cant see me staying in this house more than another 4 years. Thanks


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    EBay bud cheap 40 yr garuntee carnt go wrong

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    One of the EPDM liners like greenseal

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    One of the EPDM liners like greenseal
    I just go for one with free underlay the last one was fantastic the underlay was like a thick blanket , It was 7*6 meter for about 40 quid I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
    I just go for one with free underlay the last one was fantastic the underlay was like a thick blanket , It was 7*6 meter for about 40 quid I think

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    Still wants to be atleast EPDM not pvc shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
    I just go for one with free underlay the last one was fantastic the underlay was like a thick blanket , It was 7*6 meter for about 40 quid I think

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    Pondliner bargains on eBay was who I used last, was 60 not 40 but included fleece underlay , I carnt fault it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    Still wants to be atleast EPDM not pvc shit
    It is epdm bud my original pond used same liner and been in over ten years now no issues with the liner

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    Yeah has just as long a warranty as butyl nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    Yeah has just as long a warranty as butyl nowadays
    I've used this liner on the last 5 builds I've done and it is fine on all even takes a scrub with floor brush to remove alge

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    [QUOTE=RudeDogg1;310295]Still wants to be atleast EPDM not pvc shit...……… Lol...

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    What does Epdm stand for ? Iím looking this stuff donít say epdm??? IMG_8783.JPGIMG_8783.JPG


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    Itís like a man made rubber type liner very durable and uv resistant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuffyrat View Post
    EBay bud cheap 40 yr garuntee carnt go wrong

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    Cheers mate il have a mooch when I get home from work


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    Cheers mate il have a mooch when I get home from work


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    It does explain about it on the pondkeeper site

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    One of the EPDM liners like greenseal
    Cheers mate il check green seal out


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    Quote Originally Posted by RudeDogg1 View Post
    It does explain about it on the pondkeeper site

    I had a brief look but didnít see anything saying epdm but I do want to know if the one I order is that type as few people mentioned it


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    I had a brief look but didnít see anything saying epdm but I do want to know if the one I order is that type as few people mentioned it


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    Go on the menu and near the very bottom there is a bit to click on

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    EPDM and LDPE are not the same.

    EPDM is heavier and stretches. LDPE will not stretch.

    What shape is the pond and will you be putting a bottom drain/side drain/underwater returns in? If yes then i would use EPDM if you can afford it.

    LDPE won't grip round a pipe like EPDM does when streched.

    It stands for Ethylene Propylene Diene Monomer apparently.

    Ask how thick the underlay is too. If its only for 4 years you could get away with using an old carpet or vinyl flooring.

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    Decent pond liners / underlay

    Hey thanks for the reply! Itís going to be a basic pond done with sleepers and then down into ground. No bottom drains Iím going with pump fed gravity return. When I move into the next house few years down the line il go with bottom drains I think but for now Iím happy with doing it this way. Checked out the prices and the epdm is coming in about four times the price, Iím thinking if I get lpde with a underlay it should be fine? What do you think ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by charco123 View Post
    Hey thanks for the reply! Itís going to be a basic pond done with sleepers and then down into ground. No bottom drains Iím going with pump fed gravity return. When I move into the next house few years down the line il go with bottom drains I think but for now Iím happy with doing it this way. Checked out the prices and the epdm is coming in about four times the price, Iím thinking if I get lpde with a underlay it should be fine? What do you think ?


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    Sorry I misread the stuff I use is the non stretching type, It works fine I've put bottom drains and returns in all the builds with no leaks, sorry again for confusion

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