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    Sleeper Height?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on how high you can go with sleepers? I am in the planning stages for a new pond and due to good old Sussex flint and the problems digging down (spades and pick axes just bounce back at you when they hit the bits of flint) I was looking to only go 2 feet down and 4 feet above with sleepers. I want to achieve 6 feet depth and cant face having to get another digger in as I had to last time. Im also keen for any chance of moving house in the future i don't end up with a huge 6 foot hole that puts off potential buyers or causes me all kinds of headache to have to fill back in

    Despite looks on forums, I havenít yet found anything that answers what kind of height you can safely do with sleepers if they are set on a concrete collar and well fixed through with rebar through each layer and big timber locks.
    Wondering if 4 feet high may need sleepers on their sides ie the wider part which would require a lot more of them and increase the cost a lot.

    Has anyone got any views on type of material such as pine, oak etc?

    Any thoughts / experience would be appreciated.

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    at 4ft high that's going to limit the viewing angle to look in and make any work like netting etc a pain in the bum unless you have a platform ladder.

    pine will be cheaper, oak will last a long time, but if not in the green is a real pain to drill through and will dull a bit in no time,

    can you get the volume going wider and have a slightly less dramatic wall of timber or rent a pneumatic tool or mini digger and get through the ground that way
    the slow pond build thread

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    mines 4ft high softwood but on their sides,i dont think i could of done it without really stressing by standing on edges,i spent £1500 on my 96 sleepers for mine,then a load of rebar and screws,,,,andi
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    Im going to go in the middle and aim for 3 high so about 3 feet so still not too high to work and hope I can dig a good 3 feet into the Sussex flint

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    mines 4ft high softwood but on their sides,i dont think i could of done it without really stressing by standing on edges,i spent £1500 on my 96 sleepers for mine,then a load of rebar and screws,,,,andi
    Hi Andi..Sorry for stepping in to the thread but I am trying to get as much info as I can on my new sleeper build. Looking at your photo the base doesn't seem to have a concrete base, is this right?.
    Like Rich I hope to drop 3 foot down and 3 ft up. Any advice would be gratefully received. Steve

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    Hi there is a concrete ring under sleepers and then its just 4"hardcore covered in 6"sand in middle as im on hard clay soil.its not going anywhere.especially as the outside is now surrounded in 8" of concrete patio lol...andi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    Hi there is a concrete ring under sleepers and then its just 4"hardcore covered in 6"sand in middle as im on hard clay soil.its not going anywhere.especially as the outside is now surrounded in 8" of concrete patio lol...andi
    Hi Andi...Thank you for the info...My soil is very sandy two foot down.

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