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    Looking good, you have broke the back of it already, It took me ages to get to that stage.

    One thing that I would say and i've seen it on a lot of builds is that they have lots of concrete on the pond base but very little under the bottom drain, there is the same pressure on the base of the bottom drain as there is on the pond base itself, so what i did was dig out under the bottom drain and put a 100mm concrete base under that, to me its a weak point in most builds
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcarpchaser View Post
    I’d have thought a couple of 20k variable flow pumps would be ideal?
    One for the shower, one for the returns.
    Kinda depends on how big your shower is really.


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    I'm with you on that one, its one of my biggest mistakes not getting variable flow pump
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    funnily enough i did that, i moved the drain and attempted to dig a little bit out so i could pour some concrete but i dug a bit too much, i reckon there is about 100mm down and 200mm round the drain

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    Looking good, you have broke the back of it already, It took me ages to get to that stage.

    One thing that I would say and i've seen it on a lot of builds is that they have lots of concrete on the pond base but very little under the bottom drain, there is the same pressure on the base of the bottom drain as there is on the pond base itself, so what i did was dig out under the bottom drain and put a 100mm concrete base under that, to me its a weak point in most builds

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    funnily enough i did that, i moved the drain and attempted to dig a little bit out so i could pour some concrete but i dug a bit too much, i reckon there is about 100mm down and 200mm round the drain
    Personally I would say that was perfect
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    As others have probably said already, fill your bottom drain and pipework with water and cover it with a piece of plastic and probably some bricks, I filled mine and tested it a few days before and found that the bottom drain welding had a small weep hole in it, I ended up cutting the old bottom drain off and fitting a new one it all worked out well in the end but it was touch and go at the time
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    i tested it for a cpl days only this is, it rained for that cpl days so i couldnt see any leaks but i did cover it and the level didnt drop so i guess im ok i see you have a filtreau 30, how are you finding it? I havent got the drum yet but i think its going to be a toss up between that and a queni 15

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    As others have probably said already, fill your bottom drain and pipework with water and cover it with a piece of plastic and probably some bricks, I filled mine and tested it a few days before and found that the bottom drain welding had a small weep hole in it, I ended up cutting the old bottom drain off and fitting a new one it all worked out well in the end but it was touch and go at the time

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    Slab is done !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    i tested it for a cpl days only this is, it rained for that cpl days so i couldnt see any leaks but i did cover it and the level didnt drop so i guess im ok i see you have a filtreau 30, how are you finding it? I havent got the drum yet but i think its going to be a toss up between that and a queni 15
    I'm happy with the drum, I did have a problem with the batch that I had, it had plastic cogs in the gearbox which have all been replaced without issue, apparently they tried plastic for a while which didn't work so they changed to metal, all good apart from that, I have modified the cleaning water to come from the mains water, so as not to drain the pond, but the general design is pretty good
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    Slab is done !

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    That's the hard part done, it starts to look like its being built from now on, looking good
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    thanks mate, got a quote for the fibreglass this morning too feels like its getting somewhere now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    thanks mate, got a quote for the fibreglass this morning too feels like its getting somewhere now.
    Looking good mate. As Roy said. Starting to look like a pond now.

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    Wheres your bottom drain hiding

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Wheres your bottom drain hiding

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    In the kitchen
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    In the kitchen
    Haha Brill. Nice one Roy. Can t see it in the photo. But can see a bottom drain pipe work.
    Must be hiding behind that tree shadow.
    How you doing Roy good I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    How you doing Roy good I hope.
    Well funny you should ask, but you will wish you hadn't

    MY builder has done a runner with £200 not been back in 3 weeks, he was supposed to be taking the render off the front of my house, he did an hour and then left with the money, never to be seen again, this was 3 weeks ago.

    When he left he helped himself to a pile of lead off the back garden, that I took off the roof and chimney's, about £50 scrap money, he was working at the front of teh house, the lead was at the back of teh house.

    He wont answer my wife's calls or texts, his van isn't at home, so he must be away from home, I called him yesterday on a private number and he answered, sounded surprised and said he was too ill to talk at the moment and would call me back last night, he didn't

    The render has been taken off around the windows and now it leaks, so my newly finished bedroom is leaking all around the window.

    We are also having the pond rendered but the guy doing it has cancelled last minute, family issues but still annoying.

    The resin bound gravel path we are having done on the back garden isn't right so I've told them to break it up and do it again, at their cost

    I'm going away on Sunday for two weeks leaving everything in a mess and the house like a sieve

    The wife's wrist is still bad and she may need a operation, to put the bones back into place, it fusing together so she can't move it or the nerve cutting so she doesn't feel the pain.

    Are you sorry you asked?

    But apart from that, life is good
    Last edited by RoyLittle0; 02-08-2019 at 10:45 AM.
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Well funny you should ask, but you will wish you hadn't

    MY builder has done a runner with £200 not been back in 3 weeks, he was supposed to be taking the render off the front of my house, he did an hour and then left with the money, never to be seen again, this was 3 weeks ago.

    When he left he helped himself to a pile of lead off the back garden, that I took off the roof and chimney's, about £50 scrap money, he was working at the front of teh house, the lead was at the back of teh house.

    He wont answer my wife's calls or texts, his van isn't at home, so he must be away from home, I called him yesterday on a private number and he answered, sounded surprised and said he was too ill to talk at the moment and would call me back last night, he didn't

    The render has been taken off around the windows and now it leaks, so my newly finished bedroom is leaking all around the window.

    We are also having the pond rendered but the guy doing it has cancelled last minute, family issues but still annoying.

    The resin bound gravel path we are having done on the back garden isn't right so I've told them to break it up and do it again, at their cost

    I'm going away on Sunday for two weeks leaving everything in a mess and the house like a sieve

    The wife's wrist is still bad and she may need a operation, to put the bones back into place, it fusing together so she can't move it or the nerve cutting so she doesn't feel the pain.

    Are you sorry you asked?

    But apart from that, life is good
    S__t wish I had nt asked. Anyway mate
    Glad alls well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    S__t wish I had nt asked. Anyway mate
    Glad alls well.
    lol, its just life, it would be boring if it went smoothly all the time
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2100 mm x 710 mm Infinity Window 32mm thick glass
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Heated from house boiler through a heat exchanger
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Welcome to my world Sephs buildSephs build


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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Wheres your bottom drain hiding

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    Found it Sephs build

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    You found it or the sniffer dog haha

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