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    Update on the pond , getting there


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    Roy little O

    Thats well worth knowing for anybody building an indoor grow on or quarantine tank. Any links on recommended products?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    dont bother with jets as said use 2" underwater returns all with valves on outside of pond so you can dictate flow,i plumbed my single return into a Y joint followed by 2 valves and 2 pipes,one to pond and one over shower then i can turn shower off and feed straight to pond in winter,as for lights dont bother,koi dont have eyelids so cant shut their eyes,fit lights above pond,i use 20w led floods over mine,in pond lights could also make looking through window hard,oh and they will get covered in algae and always need cleaning,also as roy says get variable pumps, although size will be decided on what filter your using,,,andi
    I've seen LED strip lights they look very good, I wonder if they would be better than the beam off a floodlight?.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Regrettably I am very sceptical of manufacturers claims on what is perceived as daylight, the problem is no one quotes CRI Colour Rendering Index, I have a marine tank and the corals need a certain light spectrum, which is natural sunlight. Sunlight in its pure form has a kelvin temperature of around 5,000 degrees kelvin and a colour rendering index of 100

    Most lamps you get have a 6,500 degrees kelvin and a colour rendering index of 80, although they don't quote the CRI normally. in sunlight you can view 100% of the true colour a lamp with a CRI of 80 you can only see 80% true colour.

    CRI is used to describing the effect of a light source on the colour appearance, so this is what is the most important to look for, and the thing that isn't normally quoted.

    So basically its a lucky dip on what works best with colours and what doesn't, also personal preference, anything above 5,000 kelvin to 10,000 kelvin can be classed as natural daylight, but only if it has a CRI of 95 or above

    Sorry that was a bit long winded but I've had customers quoted completely the wrong thing based on 6,500 kelvin and the colour was crap, this is for visual inspection lighting, so colour is important

    Rant over lol
    Hi Roy, have you a link to those lights you mention, as I wouldn't know what to ask for without getting it all arse about face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Koi View Post
    Hi Roy, have you a link to those lights you mention, as I wouldn't know what to ask for without getting it all arse about face
    Depends what lights you want, I use GU10's in my marine aquarium in the sump
    https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/i...hoC_VgQAvD_BwE

    Or flood lights
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-LED0.../dp/B01M9IJHAM

    Only 80 CRI but a good light for colour
    https://www.wholesaleledlights.co.uk...hoCZc8QAvD_BwE
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2.1 Meter x 0.71 Infinity Window
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construction-pond-build-diaries/21720-roy-lynns-shiny-pond-day.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Depends what lights you want, I use GU10's in my marine aquarium in the sump
    https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/i...hoC_VgQAvD_BwE

    Or flood lights
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-LED0.../dp/B01M9IJHAM

    Only 80 CRI but a good light for colour
    https://www.wholesaleledlights.co.uk...hoCZc8QAvD_BwE


    When you say 80 CRI is a good light for colour, do you mean to show the colour off, or to prevent fade?
    Not to read a newspaper makes you uninformed. But to read a newspaper makes you misinformed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomster View Post
    When you say 80 CRI is a good light for colour, do you mean to show the colour off, or to prevent fade?
    80 CRI or 80% true colour

    Its only 80% true colour but it shows good, close to true, natural daylight for the price, so it will show the fish colours well
    4600 Gallon Concrete Block and Fiberglass
    2.1 Meter x 0.71 Infinity Window
    2 x Aerated Bottom Drains and Skimmer
    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
    Bio Chamber - 140 litres K1
    Bakki Shower - 30 KG Sakura Far Infrared Media
    2 x 18,000 lh pumps

    https://www.koiforum.uk/pond-construction-pond-build-diaries/21720-roy-lynns-shiny-pond-day.html

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    Almost there il post some more soon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roseylee View Post

    Almost there il post some more soon


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    Some boy if that pic was taken today Haha looks good mate

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    I ainít that crazy that was a few weeks back . Thanks mate .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roseylee View Post
    I ain’t that crazy that was a few weeks back . Thanks mate .


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    looks good mate nice window. and I love the outer brickwork. what was the final gallonage in the pond. and when did you add the fish.
    and I don t mean the one in the window haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    looks good mate nice window. and I love the outer brickwork. what was the final gallonage in the pond. and when did you add the fish.
    and I don t mean the one in the window haha
    3,800 gallons total . I think I left it 8 weeks then added some of me smaller fish then gradually added the bigger ones over the next two weeks , just about pulled it off as we sold the old house so was on a time limit . I didnít feed them to much as I was worried about the good bacteria being killed off in the cold weather but that seems to have paid off at the moment .


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    Love it mate job very well done beautiful and a nice big size

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    Nice


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    This is great mate, looks fantastic.

    Unfortunately the missus, who is a big fan of windows, disagrees. She said "This is just boys and their toys, who can get the biggest window into a pond, it's all about size with men"

    Apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    This is great mate, looks fantastic.

    Unfortunately the missus, who is a big fan of windows, disagrees. She said "This is just boys and their toys, who can get the biggest window into a pond, it's all about size with men"

    Apparently.
    She knows us to well


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    Looks even more impressive with high photo shot.

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    I am not a fan of windows but I must admit yours looks awsome,like the way it goes nearly to the ground must have cost a bit

    What is the stone cladding on the pond and what is the cladding on the nearby building?
    Sorry for the questions but I think it will be very impressive,like it.
    John

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    Awesome build mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    I am not a fan of windows but I must admit yours looks awsome,like the way it goes nearly to the ground must have cost a bit

    What is the stone cladding on the pond and what is the cladding on the nearby building?
    Sorry for the questions but I think it will be very impressive,like it.
    Thanks buddy . The glass was £2000 with the stainless steel frame , the pond cladding is splitface copper I think and the shed cladding is cedar shingles , I really overdone the budget but definitely worth it .



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