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    new house, new baby, new pond

    So Im away working and my heavily pregnant other half has the pleasure of moving house as well as moving a large number of freshwater fish and a marine aquarium.

    In the mean time at least i can make some plans and order parts.

    a rough sketch, btw i dont look like Stan Lee on acid, but the normal chap was so dull

    It will butt up to the garage workshop so I shall run the plumbing through the walls and have the filter in there. The electrician will wire up the garage with a new set of wires as part of the house rewire


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    That looks really good. I hope all goes well with the house move and baby etc. I don't envy your poor wife!!!!! xx

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    Thank you

    I have it far to easy bobbing about in the Gulf and im the halfwit that suggested a move as well.

    Best be some nice flowers on the petrol station forecourt n my way home

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    To be honest, i think your spoiling with the flowers
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowsaw View Post
    So Im away working and my heavily pregnant other half has the pleasure of moving house as well as moving a large number of freshwater fish and a marine aquarium.

    In the mean time at least i can make some plans and order parts.

    a rough sketch, btw i dont look like Stan Lee on acid, but the normal chap was so dull

    It will butt up to the garage workshop so I shall run the plumbing through the walls and have the filter in there. The electrician will wire up the garage with a new set of wires as part of the house rewire


    Not sure if the images are there, the sat nets very slow here
    That looks like a good build when completed. Will look forward to seeing it. Don't forget to post pictures as you build.
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    Aqua forte 60 air pump
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    I will try but it will have to be a rushed job in the 2 weeks pre baby post Mexico

    Any one know any fish moving businesses near Bristol?

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    Still not sorted the fish move, but im told the house has completed and keys handed over

    trying to get a plumbing list together so i can get as much delivered in advance of my return

    also glass thickness, id like as much glass as possible on the two viewable sides, less block work needed but also it should make for a interesting addition for the child to grow up with and will allow easy viewing until its old enough to see over the top and through the cover

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    plumbing shopping list

    4 Inch Waste Pipe (3 Mtrs.)
    4 Inch 90 Degree Bend (Waste)
    4 Inch Tee (Waste)
    Bottom Drain 110mm Large Sump
    small bottom drain (veg bay)
    Standard Pro Skim Skimmer
    2 4 inch ball valves

    im sure there is plenty more that needs adding, and im not sure on the return to pond yet

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    skimmer and guard picked up from the bay, shame I wont be able to get every thing preloved rather than new, but where i can I will

    trying to work out how to angle the returns so a gentle bend occurs as it seems odd, people go all out on the bottom drain with over engineered pipe work and gradual turns and then use a very different diameter and bend radiance on the returns

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    new house, new baby, new pond

    You can use 2 45degree bends or a swept 90 will help it with the flow .

    Bottom drain pipe work is always gravity and needs to cope with possible blockages from blanket weed and alike hence the need for easy bends and volume of pipe .

    Returns are generally forcefully pumped with filtered water and no chance of blockages but the less resistance the better your pump will perform

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    On your plumbing list what is the 4" tee for ?

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    congrats, That looks really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleveland View Post
    On your plumbing list what is the 4" tee for ?
    mine?

    im using an air lift so its how i'll return the water and vent off the air

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    mine?



    im using an air lift so its how i'll return the water and vent off the air

    Just had concerns that you were teeing in bottom drains together!

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    oh no, just a single one, gravity to filter and then an airlift return to get lots of water moved for little cost, well thats the plan any way

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    rather than run the flow one way and then the next and of course forget and just leave it one way for ages, would a return in the two back corners creating counter currents that converge over the bottom drain and also put the skimmer into this area be a better way?, i would also then not have to worry should the airlift prove better than expected at moving lots of water
    this would also eliminate sulphur dioxide building up in the dead legs of plumbing during that sections off period

    should the returns be on a return system with valves for flow control or if the run is identical for left as right, would this be not required?

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    How will you keep the heron out and what if they jump out?
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    I have a metal cover on the existing one, ill get the metal worker i used last time to make an extra panel for the slightly longer new pond, though with this one being near a wall rather than have to lift the cover off with the other half, i shall have a pulley to pull them vertical and lock in place.

    had a koi kill its self on the cover before by jumping too high and bashing head, but the covers not there to stop predation, it was to stop other pets getting in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowsaw View Post
    I have a metal cover on the existing one, ill get the metal worker i used last time to make an extra panel for the slightly longer new pond, though with this one being near a wall rather than have to lift the cover off with the other half, i shall have a pulley to pull them vertical and lock in place.

    had a koi kill its self on the cover before by jumping too high and bashing head, but the covers not there to stop predation, it was to stop other pets getting in.
    Sounds like you've got it sorted!
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    Its handy having a friend that works in a specialist metal company, easy to get things built

    was looking at a steel pond before, after seeing some on MFK but its going outside so not practical, though im tempted by the idea to possibly clad in metal to get the nice patina, though im sure the other half will win and it will be paint or shingles.

    I built a pond at old house and had to add a king fisher branch to assist in keeping the numbers of fish down, eggs came in on visiting pond users or plants and soon the pond was over run with carp, so rather than stir up the ponds and the make the nature pond fill more niches feeding visiting winged predators became a solution, have never seen any grass snakes in the pond (or garden for that matter) but there are a few large compost heaps close by to act as a nest site and a hibernaculum for amphibians

    With this one, its again a formal fish pond, but im trying to limit the running costs and also to make it easy to run

 

 
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