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    Kage Shiro - stunning

    While I was window shopping (pretty much a daily occurrence) i come across this koi.

    I had not seen a koi similar before so I thought I would share it.




    The listing did not hold the variety so I contacted the retailer to ask and they confirmed it was a Kage Shiro.

    I really like it.


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    Yes very nice, certainly would not say no either

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    Sort of looks like it’s gone wrong
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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder James...

    Fortunately for you Kage Shiro - stunning


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    Pretty sure I'd never heard of these but I'm not ace on varieties, in fact everytime I figure out which mine are I forget and have to start again lol (well apart from a couple of em).

    Anyway, I'd never seen one of those and I do like that, I bet a ginrin one be nice.

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    I’m pretty good now with the variety’s but this one was new on me.. not cheap though @ £3,900

    I mean I like it but I could get a much nicer fish for that money.

    If you send a photo of yours I’ll have a go at identifying them. Kage Shiro - stunning if your interested that is


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    I’m pretty good now with the variety’s but this one was new on me.. not cheap though @ £3,900

    I mean I like it but I could get a much nicer fish for that money.

    If you send a photo of yours I’ll have a go at identifying them. Kage Shiro - stunning if your interested that is


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    How Muchhhhh..... yeah a bit pricey I agree.

    Thanks for the offer of identifying but I can work them out, I just need to remember when I do lol.. perhaps I'll write em down next time.

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    Or just remember them Kage Shiro - stunning, it also don’t help that different people call the same variety different names..


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    Gunna print photos and names of mine and stick them in filter bay or med cupboard only way I'll remember mine

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    Kage Shiro - stunning

    I think I remember them as I am always looking on koi sites. Spelling them it normally where I struggle.. also pronunciation can be amusing and when I hear it on a video I realise I have been saying it completely wrong for months/ years

    Here is an example a koi with 2 names



    You will see it being referred as a Platinum Ogon or others will use the name Purachina why.... Kage Shiro - stunning


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    I think I remember them as I am always looking on koi sites. Spelling them it normally where I struggle.. also pronunciation can be amusing and when I hear it on a video I realise I have been saying it completely wrong for months/ years

    Here is an example a koi with 2 names



    You will see it being referred as a Platinum Ogon or others will use the name Purachina why.... Kage Shiro - stunning


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    Yeah I had one and that confused the shit out of me when the shop sold it as a ogon and people on here called it the other one

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    I am not sure on the Shiro, It is nice but it wouldn't catch my eye I don't think, however it may be a different matter when its matured in a pond as the way some fish change is unreal, my Goshiki is a prime example with the body going from silver to a deep black once it was added to the pond. I certainly would be looking at other with with a price tag of £3900 too! I feel this could get lost in a dark pond

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    Platinum Ogon & Purachina = The same thing.

    Japanese pronunciation of Purachina = Platinum.

    I got spoken to like I didn't know what I was talking about when I accidentally called a Nezu Ogon a Platinum Ogon.

    Nezu Ogon = slightly more greyish than a Platinum Ogon, but I found it really hard to tell between them on the ones I saw.

    The Mother of my Kirin is a 96cm Nezu Ogon, but my Kirin will reach 96cm WIDE long before she reaches 96cm long lol!

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    I agree the differences can be hard to determine.

    Nezu - (NEH zoo) translates to Gray color. Japanese really do keep it simple Kage Shiro - stunning


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    Anyone interested in learning some of the Japanese words this is a great website.

    https://russellwatergardens.com/page...ary-of-terms#N

    I find sometime on videos they will be talking about how great the Sashi is or how poor the Kiwa is Kage Shiro - stunning

    That link helps translate.

    Kiwa – (KEE wah) The edge of a patch or marking .

    Sashi - (SAH shee) Blurring of the leading edge of a pattern element, seen on scaled koi.

    All good learning if your interested in this sort of thing


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    Anyway I think weve established its a mut, even at a tenth of the price
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    Anyone interested in learning some of the Japanese words this is a great website.

    https://russellwatergardens.com/page...ary-of-terms#N

    I find sometime on videos they will be talking about how great the Sashi is or how poor the Kiwa is Kage Shiro - stunning

    That link helps translate.

    Kiwa – (KEE wah) The edge of a patch or marking .

    Sashi - (SAH shee) Blurring of the leading edge of a pattern element, seen on scaled koi.

    All good learning if your interested in this sort of thing


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    Don't forget the different types of Kiwa and Sashi.

    Like Maruzome etc. That is where I get proper confused!

    That's a good link though, very helpful.

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    I can't speak bloody English ish propa never mind this stuff lol

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    I can't speak bloody English ish propa never mind this stuff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djstiles999 View Post
    Well if you will live up North
    Could always be worse could be a bloody scouse

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