Kage Shiro - stunning

**Mikeh83** · 12-01-2021, 11:58 AM

While I was window shopping (pretty much a daily occurrence) i come across this koi.

I had not seen a koi similar before so I thought I would share it.

The listing did not hold the variety so I contacted the retailer to ask and they confirmed it was a Kage Shiro.

I really like it.

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**dbs** · 12-01-2021, 12:09 PM

Yes very nice, certainly would not say no either

**Spongebob** · 13-01-2021, 04:53 AM

Sort of looks like it’s gone wrong

**Mikeh83** · 13-01-2021, 07:52 AM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder James...

Fortunately for you

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**arceye** · 14-01-2021, 07:10 PM

Pretty sure I'd never heard of these but I'm not ace on varieties, in fact everytime I figure out which mine are I forget and have to start again lol (well apart from a couple of em).

Anyway, I'd never seen one of those and I do like that, I bet a ginrin one be nice.

**Mikeh83** · 14-01-2021, 07:24 PM

I’m pretty good now with the variety’s but this one was new on me.. not cheap though @ £3,900

I mean I like it but I could get a much nicer fish for that money.

If you send a photo of yours I’ll have a go at identifying them.

if your interested that is

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**arceye** · 14-01-2021, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mikeh83

I’m pretty good now with the variety’s but this one was new on me.. not cheap though @ £3,900

I mean I like it but I could get a much nicer fish for that money.

If you send a photo of yours I’ll have a go at identifying them.

if your interested that is

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How Muchhhhh..... yeah a bit pricey I agree.

Thanks for the offer of identifying but I can work them out, I just need to remember when I do lol.. perhaps I'll write em down next time.

**Mikeh83** · 14-01-2021, 08:19 PM

Or just remember them

, it also don’t help that different people call the same variety different names..

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**Ajm** · 14-01-2021, 08:24 PM

Gunna print photos and names of mine and stick them in filter bay or med cupboard only way I'll remember mine

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**Mikeh83** · 14-01-2021, 08:54 PM

I think I remember them as I am always looking on koi sites. Spelling them it normally where I struggle.. also pronunciation can be amusing and when I hear it on a video I realise I have been saying it completely wrong for months/ years

Here is an example a koi with 2 names

You will see it being referred as a Platinum Ogon or others will use the name Purachina why....

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**Ajm** · 14-01-2021, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mikeh83

I think I remember them as I am always looking on koi sites. Spelling them it normally where I struggle.. also pronunciation can be amusing and when I hear it on a video I realise I have been saying it completely wrong for months/ years

Here is an example a koi with 2 names

You will see it being referred as a Platinum Ogon or others will use the name Purachina why....

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Yeah I had one and that confused the shit out of me when the shop sold it as a ogon and people on here called it the other one

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**samp09** · 15-01-2021, 10:09 AM

I am not sure on the Shiro, It is nice but it wouldn't catch my eye I don't think, however it may be a different matter when its matured in a pond as the way some fish change is unreal, my Goshiki is a prime example with the body going from silver to a deep black once it was added to the pond. I certainly would be looking at other with with a price tag of £3900 too! I feel this could get lost in a dark pond

**RS2OOO** · 15-01-2021, 11:17 AM

Platinum Ogon & Purachina = The same thing.

Japanese pronunciation of Purachina = Platinum.

I got spoken to like I didn't know what I was talking about when I accidentally called a Nezu Ogon a Platinum Ogon.

Nezu Ogon = slightly more greyish than a Platinum Ogon, but I found it really hard to tell between them on the ones I saw.

The Mother of my Kirin is a 96cm Nezu Ogon, but my Kirin will reach 96cm WIDE long before she reaches 96cm long lol!

**Mikeh83** · 15-01-2021, 11:24 AM

I agree the differences can be hard to determine.

Nezu - (NEH zoo) translates to Gray color. Japanese really do keep it simple

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**Mikeh83** · 15-01-2021, 11:31 AM

Anyone interested in learning some of the Japanese words this is a great website.

https://russellwatergardens.com/page...ary-of-terms#N

I find sometime on videos they will be talking about how great the Sashi is or how poor the Kiwa is

That link helps translate.

Kiwa – (KEE wah) The edge of a patch or marking .

Sashi - (SAH shee) Blurring of the leading edge of a pattern element, seen on scaled koi.

All good learning if your interested in this sort of thing

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**Spongebob** · 15-01-2021, 11:35 AM

Anyway I think weve established its a mut, even at a tenth of the price

**RS2OOO** · 15-01-2021, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mikeh83

Anyone interested in learning some of the Japanese words this is a great website.

https://russellwatergardens.com/page...ary-of-terms#N

I find sometime on videos they will be talking about how great the Sashi is or how poor the Kiwa is

That link helps translate.

Kiwa – (KEE wah) The edge of a patch or marking .

Sashi - (SAH shee) Blurring of the leading edge of a pattern element, seen on scaled koi.

All good learning if your interested in this sort of thing

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Don't forget the different types of Kiwa and Sashi.

Like Maruzome etc. That is where I get proper confused!

That's a good link though, very helpful.

**Ajm** · 15-01-2021, 11:45 AM

I can't speak bloody English ish propa never mind this stuff lol

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**Djstiles999** · 15-01-2021, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ajm

I can't speak bloody English ish propa never mind this stuff lol

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Well if you will live up North

**Ajm** · 15-01-2021, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Djstiles999

Well if you will live up North

Could always be worse could be a bloody scouse

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