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    Hi all here is my pond that i currently have to net since losing 2 koi last year to a heron. It is a nightmare to put on and off and does not look too good. So i am thinking of using bamboo canes around the edge and using fishing line between them as a fence?
    How high would you suggest? And how far to space the line?
    As i understand he must land on the side and nab them, they don't swoop down and catch them?

    Thanks for the help

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    Land on the side and will enter the pond, they don’t just stand on the side. Where the three planters are looks an ideal landing point. Ornaments on the walls would be worth a go, they can’t walk around unhindered. A CD hanging on a bit of fishing line works for me, they don’t like the glint as it catches the light.

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    Yes i was going to put it at the water edge along the back aswell where them planters are (filters are under there) i know the net is best it is just such an effort to take it off and on so ofter the clean. Planters around the edge seams a good idea aswell. Never thought of a CD worth hanging one up aswell good idea

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    i like my method, metal poles with a bend in so they go up 30 cm bend at 30 degrees then another 30cm four strands of wire (special wire) and a few wires criss crossing the pond from pole tops.
    Next connect said special wire to my electric fence 2.3 joule 10,000v energiser
    the heron only touches it once or twice before learning not too

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    Has anybody tried them plastic webbing things they well on ebay?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Katai-20-...8AAOSwM8Ncem4O

    Are they any good?

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    My dog sorts out any birds that come near my pond.
    Taught him well. He can be a sleep in his basket. And the slightest sound he is after them.
    Get a good dog problem solved. And no ugly pieces of wire and sticks around the pond
    Plus you end up with one loyal friend for life.

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    I think I lost about 5 fish one year, I found them around the garden with two holes in them, they were just left on the floor, it took some working out that it was a heron as the holes in each fish were all the same spacing, this year I have lost one, I caught the heron on CCTV it was walking along my pond window and balanced on the glass edge to strike at the fish.

    I have built a pergola over the pond and netted that, until I can finish it off, so far the heron hasn't been back
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    I think I lost about 5 fish one year, I found them around the garden with two holes in them, they were just left on the floor, it took some working out that it was a heron as the holes in each fish were all the same spacing, this year I have lost one, I caught the heron on CCTV it was walking along my pond window and balanced on the glass edge to strike at the fish.

    I have built a pergola over the pond and netted that, until I can finish it off, so far the heron hasn't been back
    Nice one Roy. Sounds like you have solved it. Sorry to hear of your fish losses mate.
    Crows around my garden do a great job as well.
    There very territorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Nice one Roy. Sounds like you have solved it. Sorry to hear of your fish losses mate.
    Crows around my garden do a great job as well.
    There very territorial.

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    Thanks Fred,

    The dogs do a good job but the heron gets up to early for them, the heron can be here at 5:00 in the morning, I don't get up til 6:00 so he has ample time to go fishing
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    Filtreau HiFlow 30 Drum Filter
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    2 x 18,000 lh pumps
    Idealseal MS290

    My Pond Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyLittle0 View Post
    Thanks Fred,

    The dogs do a good job but the heron gets up to early for them, the heron can be here at 5:00 in the morning, I don't get up til 6:00 so he has ample time to go fishing
    I have a similar problem Roy. Being only a mile from the Attenborough nature reserve ,half a mile from the River Trent & 400yards from the Erewash Canal it is a magnet for the Herons. Two years ago the heron cleared out my nature pond of breeding shubunkins & Orf ( luckily the fry survived in grow on tanks) .Then it returned last year , standing taller than myself was around at 5am just as I was ending a night shift.

    The koi are in a 5' deep pond under a tree but I watched as the Heron walked along a 7ft brick wall walked over a summerhouse down onto a decking just to see if the dogs were loose.Needless to say I am currently building a part glazed / shuttered pergola over the 1000 gallon pond before I continue with the 6000gallon pond build which I think will have canvas sails over when completed.

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    Just about to order some netting for my pergola as well, not only to give a bit of shade but hopefully might help the pond be a bit less visible for a heron flyover


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcarpchaser View Post
    Just about to order some netting for my pergola as well, not only to give a bit of shade but hopefully might help the pond be a bit less visible for a heron flyover


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    The other half is a target for mosquitos with a vengeance but she loves to go and watch the pond early to late evening so I think additional to the shade netting some fine mosquito netting will be in order too with trellis panels on runners similar to Japanese paper sliding doors. Warmer in winter too

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    This has stopped them a treat on mine, also stops the pigeons trotting around shitting everywhere



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    Would owl decoy work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coupe312 View Post
    Would owl decoy work?
    To have a credible Owl it needs to be a large European Eagle Owl size and have the head moving by wind or battery motor even then Herons are aware when these deterrents don't move about. I also have metallic spinners that flash light about spinning in the wind or again electric rotator

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