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    Koi to move on - High Wycombe, Bucks.

    Few koi to move on. Collection only from High Wycombe, Bucks.

    1/ 25cm Gin Rin Matsukawabake - £35.Now sold
    Homebred by myself end of last summer with Japanese parents.
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    2/ 23cm Standard Matsukawabake - £20. Now sold
    Homebred by myself end of last summer with Japanese parents. Sumi is slowly starting to come in.
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    3/ 40cm Pond filler - £30. Now sold.
    Was a Wada Kirin but all the pattern has dropped off now.
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    4/ 35cm Ogon - £35 Removed from sale, decided I like this too much to move on yet.
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    5/ 26cm Gin Rin Yamabuki Ogon - Free - No longer available
    Free due to pectoral issues, always been like this ever since I bought it
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    6/ 35cm Yamabuki Ogon - Free Moved on to a new home
    Deformed left gill plate but otherwise healthy.
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    Numbers 3 & 5 taken and no longer available.

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    Your Home bred Matsukawabake look great.
    The Ogon looks really good as well - what a bargain.

    Would be interested to see what the Kirin looked like when you first got it.

    Mine was a light one to begin with bought as a small Tosai, loses a bit more pattern each year, but the black reticulation has never come through. Love it to bits though, a real presence in the pond.

    Number 2 in this 2019 photo:





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    It is a lovely Ogon indeed. Picked it up at 3 inches from Cuttlebrook koi. Itís so friendly Iím debating keeping it tbh, just wish I wasnít so overstocked.

    Thanks for your appreciation on the Matsukawabake, I have quite a few left over from the spawn as I canít pick which one I like best. Iím finding they are growing really slowly. These two are the biggest of the batch.

    The only before picture I have of the Kirin is the below unfortunately at 17cm 🤦🏻You can kind of see the pattern it had to begin with. I think there were two styles of this variety, one light and one dark? Had a really busy year last year so didnít get round to bowling any of them up to measure.

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    Yours looked stunning as a Tosai, it is such as shame when the pattern drops off isnít it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CR_KOI View Post
    It is a lovely Ogon indeed. Picked it up at 3 inches from Cuttlebrook koi. It’s so friendly I’m debating keeping it tbh, just wish I wasn’t so overstocked.

    Thanks for your appreciation on the Matsukawabake, I have quite a few left over from the spawn as I can’t pick which one I like best. I’m finding they are growing really slowly. These two are the biggest of the batch.

    The only before picture I have of the Kirin is the below unfortunately at 17cm 臘You can kind of see the pattern it had to begin with. I think there were two styles of this variety, one light and one dark? Had a really busy year last year so didn’t get round to bowling any of them up to measure.

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    Yours looked stunning as a Tosai, it is such as shame when the pattern drops off isn’t it?

    Yours is definitely the darker type. The darker ones were actually more expensive when I got mine in the very first year they were available here in the UK, this screenshot shows the difference in the 2 batches at that time. (Ignore the breeder name on the lighter batch mine is from - that's an error).

    I went for a lighter one thinking it would be more suited to my hard water, but the black reticulation never really came through. The fish is a beast though, still just short of 60cm but a huge body and significantly heavier to lift than my other koi of that length.

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    It is a shame about pattern dropping off, an unfortunate part of the hobby. I have a couple with no pattern left, a tough pill to swallow! Even tougher is when you move them on and the colours come back - Happened to me with a Doitsu metallic Ochiba, I was gutted!


    As for your Ogon, if I wasn't fully stocked I would more than likely have snapped it up, in fact I already looked in the pond to see if there's anything I can move on to make room, but nothinig I'm quite ready to part with. I can't figure out why you are selling - if it can put size on it is going to look incredible.
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    Itís funny you mention hard water as I picked the darker style for that reason hoping that if the pattern faded it would just become lighter alas this was not the case since all the pattern dropped off eventually.

    Definitely a variety I will avoid in future or perhaps only buy at Nisai or older 🤔

    If Iím honest Iíll probably end up keeping the Ogon as I really do like it, always the first up whenever I walk nearby the pond. Main reason for trying to move them on is that I enjoy growing them fry but donít like parting with them which means I now have around 50 koi in 1500 gallons 😬

    Just noticed the picture I attached of the Matsukawabake in the last post didnít come through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR_KOI View Post
    It’s funny you mention hard water as I picked the darker style for that reason hoping that if the pattern faded it would just become lighter alas this was not the case since all the pattern dropped off eventually.

    Definitely a variety I will avoid in future or perhaps only buy at Nisai or older 樂

    If I’m honest I’ll probably end up keeping the Ogon as I really do like it, always the first up whenever I walk nearby the pond. Main reason for trying to move them on is that I enjoy growing them fry but don’t like parting with them which means I now have around 50 koi in 1500 gallons 

    Just noticed the picture I attached of the Matsukawabake in the last post didn’t come through.

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    They all look good. Don't know personally what to look for in these at that age. The GR one you have for sale looks particularly interesting.

    Lol, 50 koi in 1500 gallons. Assume that includes the home breds?

    My15 koi in 15000 litres makes it look too busy.

    I'd definitely have another Kirin, but will wait until the breeder has refined the variety a little more. Apparently they're in high demand in Asia which has pushed the prices up hence not seeing many make it to the UK lately.
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    I have no idea what to look for in them either tbh, thatís why I still have 7 of them 😂 The mother of these was actually a Kumonryu that jumped out of my pond last year and passed away so I want to keep at least one. Leaning towards the one in the middle at the moment 🤔 Lots of underlying Sumi to come through on that one 🤞🏻 and the white is much brighter in person.

    Yeah all the homebreds are in the main pond now. Lots of small-ish koi in there at the moment, about 7-8 above 50cm and the rest all range between 15cm to 40cm.

    Thatís interesting, I didnít know that about the Kirin variety being popular in Asia. I say I probably wouldnít have another but letís be honest if one popped up with a nice pattern on it, I doubt I would be able to resist the temptation 😂

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    All fish now sold/removed from sale.

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