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    It does but sometimes if parasites are present where they cause damage you get bacterial issues he needs to find out whatís caused it and treat it


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    Disappointing that the previous home owner left you to deal with this, I'd be fuming.

    More disappointing is the fact that the person they recommended to diagnose does not know what parasites they were looking at.

    Did they test all the water parameters before bowling and scraping a fish?

    I would hope so and I would hope they gave you the full details of what the water parameters were, what they should be, and how to maintain them. If they did not I can only say I hope they didn't charge you.

    Gill filaments look pale on the earlier photos, clearly a problem somewhere.

    1 or 2 parasites isn't necessarily a big problem, depending on what they are of course. But 1 or 2 parasites in a skin scrape that is no bigger than 10mm likely indicates there's many more on the rest of the fish.

    1 or 2 costia would be enough for me to order treatment and get it dealt with, 1 or 2 white spot is enough for me to drive to the shop right now and buy treatment for immediate adminstration. 1 or 2 Trichodina or skin flukes can wait if the fish aren't showing any major symptoms - but yours clearly are.

    If you are local to me in Kent I'd be happy to pop round and take a look, if not, it is still worth sharing your location in case someone else is nearby. Its a big step between inheriting a pond and a week later having to learn how to manage water and identify parasites, not a pleasant one either as it takes the enjoyment from the pond/fish before you've even started.

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    hi mindkrug - where are you based?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindkrug View Post
    hello, this is my first post here. i bought a house 2-3weeks ago and owner left his pond and kois for me. sadly one koi passed away after two days after move in, and now other koi looks pretty bad in my opinion. ive called local guy he looked for parasites and said she has some but its normal for fish to have small amount of parasites.. he gave two shots of antibiotics, but its the same, she almost eats nothing, only few drops of sturgeon food from the bottom of the pond. fish keeping distance from other kois and have no interest...
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    pond size is about 25000l, ive got oase proficlear compact filter system.
    ph 7-8
    nitrite (no2) = 0.05-0.1

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    hello Gazkoi, im from Lithuania.

    ive ordered microscope and will check for parasites asap as ill get it because few kois is strange for me after last koi passed






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    did fast water test today using quickstick 6in1:
    nitrate 10-25
    nitrite 0
    gh between 7 and 14
    kh 6-10
    ph 7.6-8
    chlorine 0

    using jbl no2 test im getting nitrite 0.05 or 0.1 depends on feeding...

    did microscope for the first time today... maybe because it was my first time doing it i found nothing on one koi, didnt catch others because theyre so fast and i dont want to make a lot of stress to these babies, will try catch another one tomorrow.

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    hello its me again!
    can it be bacteria?








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    If these are secondary infections there could well be bacteria present now but that is not necessarily the cause.

    The cause could still be parasites, and some parasites can be tricky to find and require x400 magnification to spot them.

    While you are trying to get to the bottom of the problem it would be sensible to treat the injured areas with something like Tamodine that will kill all bacteria on contact.

    What is the fish behaviour like in the pond, i.e bottom sitting, flashing, clamped fins etc?

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    she swims well, active, eating... maybe after taking muscus she stayed alone for some time... will check on her tomorrow again...

    tried to look for moving objects switching from 100 to 400x... found some interesting things but they wasnt moving so i guess its not parasites..




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    Pucture 1 looks like a bit of algae to me not sure what two is neither look like parasites


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    one man told me he had similar issue and his test kit was old and there were ammonia in the water and koi burnt because of that. ive ordered new test kit from oase.
    while im waiting it to arrive im still looking for solutions and found one. this looks similar to my case

    https://www.koi-fish.com/koi-health/pseudomonas.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindkrug View Post
    one man told me he had similar issue and his test kit was old and there were ammonia in the water and koi burnt because of that. ive ordered new test kit from oase.
    while im waiting it to arrive im still looking for solutions and found one. this looks similar to my case

    https://www.koi-fish.com/koi-health/pseudomonas.html
    If you've got a Koi Dealer close to you give them a ring, he may also know of a Koi club in your area and I'm sure they'd have a Koi [fish] health officer who could come and check things out for you.

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    found that my biggest koi have holes on his dorsal fin. so its almost clear that is caused by ulcer. can i use colombo cytofex in this situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindkrug View Post
    found that my biggest koi have holes on his dorsal fin. so its almost clear that is caused by ulcer. can i use colombo cytofex in this situation?

    You need the help of a Koi Health person, you seem to have a few issues going on and unfortunately the answers you need are difficult to give on a forum, there's a koi dealer in Wimborne called Wimborne Koi, not sure how far that is from Bournemouth, but I'm sure if you ring him he may have a contact that could help you.
    Chucking all sorts of treatments isn't gonna help you need to find out as to what is causing your issues, make that your number one priority seriously, other wise you're never gonna get to the bottom of your issues.

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    did water test today.
    ammonia 0.05 or 0.1 cant decide but i guess its closer to 0.1
    ph 8.4
    kh 9
    gh 13
    no2 0.05
    no3 0.5
    po4 0.2

 

 
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