Static flukes

[james9489]

Hi guys

Had an ok start through the current terrible temps so far, but today had one away from the pack and noticed a few showing a thicker mucus layer, slight white grey on the heads at a certain angle. Got the Ogon out which seemed off and scraped, very thick snotty mucus compared to the very light clear mucus on my scrape a month back. Whole slide was static, looked like a mass of cells with 2-3 motionless flukes. Same a month back one fluke found but totally static. Does no movement mean dead parasites? Iv got some Lernex pro on the way and going to treat asap.


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[Twhitenosugar]

Unless you've literally just treated for flukes, I take the view that if you find any on a slide, moving or not, that means there are flukes in the pond. And that in turn means that you need treat at some point, especially if your fish is showing signs of suffering from parasites.

I don't think them not moving on the slide means anything. It could just be they can't move as they are squished into place by the cover slip?

I hope you can zap the little buggers!

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[james9489]

Unless you've literally just treated for flukes, I take the view that if you find any on a slide, moving or not, that means there are flukes in the pond. And that in turn means that you need treat at some point, especially if your fish is showing signs of suffering from parasites.

I don't think them not moving on the slide means anything. It could just be they can't move as they are squished into place by the cover slip?

I hope you can zap the little buggers!

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Thanks bud, yeah going to zap the buggers this weekend I hope. I watch constant vids of flukes moving like crazy under the scope and mine just look like fossils that died years ago I’m hoping the smaller static cells are not squashed costia


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[Twhitenosugar]

Ha. When I've seen them on scrapes in the past, the flukes were barely moving for me too. I wished mine were dead I can tell you, but the little fu@*ers just kept coming back.

I swear if there is a nuclear apocalypse, the only things left will be cockroaches and flukes!

Costia are waaay smaller than flukes, they're even smaller than Trich. I doubt they can be squashed.

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[james9489]

Ha. When I've seen them on scrapes in the past, the flukes were barely moving for me too. I wished mine were dead I can tell you, but the little fu@*ers just kept coming back.

I swear if there is a nuclear apocalypse, the only things left will be cockroaches and flukes!

Costia are waaay smaller than flukes, they're even smaller than Trich. I doubt they can be squashed.

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Great thanks, going to have a deep clean today and then nuke tomorrow. Pretty certain it’s just flukes, I did add some water and checked the the more fluid areas and nothing moving. Just checked and a few more flashing now, these terrible dips in temps the cause probably


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[james9489]

Can’t get a pic but can see some sort of growth on the strange behaviour Koi’s tail fin. Probably 1-2mm. Hard to get a pic. Reading flukes are non visible to naked eye. Thinking carp pox but hear that’s ussually a winter occurrence. Any ideas? Didn’t see any white spot on scrapes…


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[john1]

Hi James hope your well mate.

Carp pox is a small whitish blob and nothing to worry about even at this time of year.

Your flukes not too sure about James,I dont use a cover slip just spread out the mucous thinly on the slide and can see clearly.

Hows the house extension going ?

[james9489]

Hi James hope your well mate.

Carp pox is a small whitish blob and nothing to worry about even at this time of year.

Your flukes not too sure about James,I dont use a cover slip just spread out the mucous thinly on the slide and can see clearly.

Hows the house extension going ?

Thanks John, hope you had a nice holiday.

I think that might be where I’m going wrong, I use two slides and maybe the suction is squeezing the movement out of everything?!

I’m going to Lernex pro the pond today if it turns up, as a few flukes about and then re scrape in a few days. Fingers crossed my digital meter is correct at 12900 litres

Hoping the visible dots are carp pox and not white spot.

I’ll have to pop over soon when summer finally arrives.

Extension going well thanks, electrics in next week. Getting there

Have a nice weekend mate


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[john1]

Your very welcome over any time James.

[john1]

Hope the Lernex goes ok for you.

[james9489]

Lernex went well I think John, mental amounts of flashing yesterday but today seems a bit more settled. Going to retreat on day 8. The Ogon that has been off is still sulking a bit but now coming up for food. I have managed to get a pic of one of the small lumps. Too big for white spot? Carp pox? Going to scrape again soon just don’t want to stress him out again




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[g mac]

Way too big to be white spot. Bit hard to see from that pic but looks like pox to me.

[james9489]

Way too big to be white spot. Bit hard to see from that pic but looks like pox to me.

Thanks mate, glad it’s not white spot. Just noticed another on a pectoral. Must be the stress of the flukes maybe. Great fun all this starting the season s**t


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[james9489]

Flashing has calmed down still a little a day or so ago. Going to retreat on Saturday. I have noticed lots or organics bubbles and Al that scum on surface, I did turn the flow down. Anyone else experience this? Dying organisms/parasites/excess mucus leaving?


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[g mac]

Some treatments can cause frothing etc. I would be water testing, just to check on ammonia, nitrite etc.

Hopefully you're winning the battle now.

My fish have really improved massively over the last few days but as with you, it's been a stressful start to the season.

[RS2OOO]

Flashing has calmed down still a little a day or so ago. Going to retreat on Saturday. I have noticed lots or organics bubbles and Al that scum on surface, I did turn the flow down. Anyone else experience this? Dying organisms/parasites/excess mucus leaving?


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I think day 8 is too long to wait for a 2nd dose. If you suspect egg laying gill flukes I'd go 3 treatments - one every 6th day or thereabouts.

Some treatments do cause organic debris, I had this quite badly once using Lernex (not pro). It'll clear within a couple of weeks post treatment. Corner of the pond looked like an oil slick on the surface, a brown colour with loads of little bubbles.

[james9489]

I think day 8 is too long to wait for a 2nd dose. If you suspect egg laying gill flukes I'd go 3 treatments - one every 6th day or thereabouts.

Some treatments do cause organic debris, I had this quite badly once using Lernex (not pro). It'll clear within a couple of weeks post treatment. Corner of the pond looked like an oil slick on the surface, a brown colour with loads of little bubbles.

Great to know! I’ll get the next treatment in later. Not had much of a water change mind you since first treatment. Recommend a good water change first?


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[james9489]

Some treatments can cause frothing etc. I would be water testing, just to check on ammonia, nitrite etc.

Hopefully you're winning the battle now.

My fish have really improved massively over the last few days but as with you, it's been a stressful start to the season.

Yeah all tests looking good. Glad to gear your nearly there too. Not a nice start for many of us


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[james9489]

Update on the Lernex pro, second dose went in yesterday and then realised the electrician needed power off for 2 hours this morning they all seemed to cope and looking ok. No flashing for 2 days and slime coat looking visibly less. Will scrape in a few days, fingers crossed


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[james9489]

Still getting some isolation from the ogon, eating ok but goes off and sits in a corner when no food around?!


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