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    Koi Issue

    Hi all

    I have noticed an issue with my Kohaku after a few days away (pictures below) and wanted to get everyone's thoughts in case someone has faced a similar issue
    For context, water quality is fine however temps have dropped a lot (not heated)

    Has anyone seen this before? and any suggestions on treatment?


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    Looks more bacterial to me and first thing would be to sedate , pull the scales and treat the wound and seal . Then personally I would double dose the pond with vikron. .

    I know you say water test are fine but any chance of putting the results up for us just incase

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    Hi Kel, Looks like a bacterial infection,koi needs sedating and wound cleaning with an antibac or hydrogen peroxide then sealing.

    Any other with infections ?
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    https://www.cotswoldkoi.co.uk/produc...hoCxpoQAvD_BwE

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    Looks like 3 scales there have died. Are they rough to touch? Could it have damaged itself on something in the pond?

    Treatment wise I would remove any dead scales and then thoroughly clean the area with tamodine, then seal with orahesive powder. I see AJ also recommended using virkon which I agree with to lower any harmful bacteria in the pond and mitigate it getting infected.


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    Hi all thanks for your response
    re water tests as it's dropper tests there isn't much to show but pH normal at ~7.5, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0. But I will look into dosing with Vikron
    I can't see any others with the same issue and I don't believe it caught on something but couldn't say for certain.

    One final question - after sedating and treating would it need quarantining? or can be released as normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    Hi all thanks for your response
    re water tests as it's dropper tests there isn't much to show but pH normal at ~7.5, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0. But I will look into dosing with Vikron
    I can't see any others with the same issue and I don't believe it caught on something but couldn't say for certain.

    One final question - after sedating and treating would it need quarantining? or can be released as normal?
    Maybe a salt bath/dip if feel it's bad enough but just release and monitor

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    Thought I would follow this thread up in case anyone was interested.
    Thanks for the responses - the Kusuri kit arrived today, appreciate the link AJ,
    I also found this YT video from Adam Julyan helpful for an insight into the full process:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGalcekUUP4

    I got her out and sedated using the kit. I removed a couple of scales but there were a couple that were too far gone so I cleaned up the area as best I could.
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    After she came back around I let her back in - I will make sure to keep an eye on her recovery for a while
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    Fingers crossed for you and her matey. Good water quality and time should see it right I would have thought

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    Well done Kel for your first attempt and you got good advice from Adam I enjoy his videos.
    Keep an eye on her,if you see some more hairy growth then its infected and needs doing again.
    If it starts going white then good news its healing,heat would help but she should hopefully be fine.

    Keep in touch with her progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    Hi all thanks for your response
    re water tests as it's dropper tests there isn't much to show but pH normal at ~7.5, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0. But I will look into dosing with Vikron
    I can't see any others with the same issue and I don't believe it caught on something but couldn't say for certain.

    One final question - after sedating and treating would it need quarantining? or can be released as normal?
    I've been using Envirex for a little while and my water quality has visibly improved, fish look happy, I've a 5000 gallon pond and use 30/40 grams every 4/5 days, its definitely improved my water condition.

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    Hi all

    I have noticed an issue with my Kohaku after a few days away (pictures below) and wanted to zumba online class get everyone's thoughts in case someone has faced a similar issue
    For context, water quality is fine however temps have dropped a lot (not heated)

    Has anyone seen this before? and any suggestions on treatment?


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    I'm sorry to hear about the issue with your Kohaku. However, you mentioned pictures below, but I don't have the capability to view or analyze images. If you can provide a detailed description of the symptoms or any unusual behavior, I might be able to offer some general advice.


    In general, changes in water temperature can affect fish health. Sudden drops in temperature can stress fish, making them more susceptible to diseases. If you notice any signs of illness, such as lethargy, changes in swimming behavior, abnormal growths, or discoloration, it's essential to take action.


    Here are some general steps you can consider:
    Quarantine:
    - If you have a quarantine tank, consider moving the affected fish to isolate them from the main pond.
    Water Testing:
    - Double-check your water parameters, including pH, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels.
    Observation:
    - Watch for any signs of parasites, bacterial infections, or fungal issues.
    Treatment:
    - Depending on the observed symptoms, you might need to treat the fish with appropriate medications. However, the specific treatment will depend on the diagnosis.
    Consult a Vet or Expert:
    - If you're uncertain about the diagnosis or treatment, consider consulting with a vet or an experienced koi enthusiast.


    Remember that accurate diagnosis and treatment are crucial, and it's often best to seek advice from professionals with expertise in fish health. If you can provide more details about the symptoms, I'll do my best to offer guidance based on the information provided.

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    Another link to online Zumba classes secreted into the quote. I've reported this advertising bot to the admins
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    How is the Kohaku doing Kel ?
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