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14-06-2021, 08:13 PM #1
Fluke Solve Plus
Anyone tried fluke solve plus. It is supposed to kill the resistant strains of skin flukes as well as Gill flukes.
so far this year I have tried larnex pro, and levamisole which only seemed to knock them back.
Thanks
Ian
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14-06-2021, 08:45 PM #2
my gill flukes last year took about 4 or 5 doses to get rid of, 3 x flukesolve 2 x fluke M
it's my belief that the resistant strains incubate for longer there by avoiding the time frame of most 2-3 shot cures...
i treated for almost 2 months april to june.Last edited by davethefish1; 14-06-2021 at 08:48 PM.
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14-06-2021, 08:45 PM #3
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15-06-2021, 09:18 AM #4
I've heard it's got similar stuff in to the original Fluke Solve plus it dissolves easily too which is what the other fluke treatments don't do. Apparently if you use water that's too hot it degrades the chemicals in the treatments and that's why Fluke Solve and now the Fluke Solve Plus has the advantage as it dissolves at a much lower temperature apparently. There's an ingredient in Fluke Solve that helps it dissolve better which because it's not classed as an active ingredient they don't need to list it on there packaging etc and that's why other manufactures can't work out what it is so they can add it to their products. Well that's what I've been told by someone that helped with the trials of the new Fluke Solve Plus
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15-06-2021, 09:51 AM #52200 gallons,infinity window,
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15-06-2021, 09:56 AM #6________________________________________________
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15-06-2021, 10:07 AM #72200 gallons,infinity window,
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15-06-2021, 10:21 AM #8
I know what you meant
Where you see ************************ that's the secrete ingredient
Be interested to what the difference is between the original Fluke Solve and the new Fluke Solve Plus though
I think it's got both Praziquantel and Flubendazole in like Lernex Pro has but it's the quantities of each that makes the difference I guess?________________________________________________
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15-06-2021, 09:35 PM #9
I treated pond with it last Saturday haven't seen no flashing since and they're all climbing over each other come grub times, my young Sanke still looking poorly though, but he's more active and eating, his gill on one side didn't look good when I had him out last Wednesday/Thursday though.
Anyone know when I can increase the return flows and put the UV's back on and re start the trickle in and out?, I treated last Saturday morning.Last edited by Tom Koi; 15-06-2021 at 09:40 PM.
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15-06-2021, 10:23 PM #10
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15-06-2021, 10:26 PM #11
Hi Tom,
do you mean Saturday 12th June? if so probably leave it another day as i think most active ingredients are spent within 3 to 5 days on most treatments as drums remove and dilute from the start even with reduced pump flow rates..... try feeding some pre soaked food down to your Sanke as he will find it easier to eat whilst his gills repair.....will help build him back up as well... a dealer where i purchase from advised this and also to do salt dips as this will help your Sanke too, my Showa and Doitsu gin Matsuba last year certainly perked after a few days of salt baths.....
Tom was this your first dose of Fluke solve plus? be good to know if your fish scrape clear...hope its done the job for youLast edited by smartin; 15-06-2021 at 10:28 PM.
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15-06-2021, 10:54 PM #12
Thanks guys, this year has been really challenging, had flukes both Gill and skin, costia as well.
Treated with malachite and formaldehyde for costia X3 doses and thought I had sorted costia, then started to treat with Larnex pro times 3 with 7 days interval, then costia back.Then Treated with Duncan’s ICC which nailed the costia. Some skin flukes still on a few fish now. Traditional treatments seam to only nock back parasites. Still love the hobby thought but don’t know what to try as far as treatment goes sometimes costia used to be so easy to treat and now flukes can be a nightmare gonget rid of
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16-06-2021, 11:56 PM #13
Cheers Smart, firstly i used fluke solve, then fluke M and then fluke solve plus, still haven't seen any of the 8 fish flash, sanke still looks poorly, but happily swimming about, noticed tonight that he didn't seem able to suck in pellets, so chucked a handful of micro pellets in, our club health officer has got some gill wash so hopefully get some off him and hopefully get him sorted, he's far more active, so I've hopes for him, flukes are the Bain of the life of Koi keeper,
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23-06-2021, 11:06 PM #14
Well judging by the behaviour of fish, I think I've solved my Fluke problem for now, but unfortunately due to a stupid irresponsible error by me, I lost my young Sanke on Sunday was sick to me stomach, I setup to give him a 5 min bath in gill wash, but stupidly got my dosage rate wrong and despite my efforts to save him, I couldn't, its totally shot my confidence, only consolation is that it looks like all the other fish in the pond are fine after the fluke treatments, ain't seen no flashing or scrapes or redness on their flanks etc on any of the fish.
Fish in tank are basking in the heat of the water at 23degrees and are ravenous, I can't seem to give them enough food.
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24-06-2021, 08:40 AM #15
I have just put in fluke solve Plus after lernex pro failled to rid the flukes.
Drum has been bypassed and both UV and trickle in are off.
Not sure how long to bypass the drum.
Will add to post in a week to update on the flukes.
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24-06-2021, 09:57 AM #16
I have some Fluke solve plus on the way but since using PP on the pond Sunday I haven't seem so much flashing. I saw my goshiki who is the main culprit do it the day after but haven't noticed it since when looking at the pond and seems to be in better shape so hopefully that nuked whatever it was causing irritation. Not going to treat for flukes unless I start seeing any frequent flashing though, just handy to have it ready.
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24-06-2021, 11:40 AM #17
I have ordered some fluke solve plus today even Flu***ol didn’t work. No luck with larnex pro, Levamisole as well.
fluke solve plus seems to be flying off the shelf, ordered mine from coastal koi, a batch is due in today and they only had 3 left due to back orders. Hope the treatment is as effective as the demand, think it will be another couple of weeks before this post has any real value to members. Fingers crossed
Ian
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26-06-2021, 04:40 PM #18
I spoke to one of the Koi dealers who tells me they have been using Fluke Solve Plus (developed again by Fiona McDonald) for 12 months ... obviously it must be an improvement but he did say that the fluke treatments (not learnex pro as that's already a mixture of two key ingredients) are alternated with ones containing Flubendazoleto get the best results as there is no guarentee that 2 doses of fluke solve plus will always work.
I did mention it's getting quite expensive for hobbyists to keep doing these treatments when there is no guarentee of fixing after potentially spending over £100 ... which in my books is getting pretty expensive if we're left still chasing our tails!
Let's wait to hear the results from fellow Koi keepers
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26-06-2021, 08:09 PM #19
Fluke solve plus went in yesterday think I will scrape again on Thursday, one thing I am trying to get my head round is when to re treat, it is claimed that it stays active for three weeks and then to re treat, how much strength is left at 3 weeks is anyone guess. If it stayed at full strength for 3 weeks surely there would be no need for a second dose. Is it me having numb moment or can anyone else shed some light, I am thinking of treating every 7 days
Thanks
Ian
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26-06-2021, 08:16 PM #20
Is it some thing to do with the hatching of this invincible strain being longer than others? Am just random guess here to be fair
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