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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaws2 View Post
    Can anyone help. Fluke solve plus went in last week. Fish seem to be ok and eating as usual but all seem to flash after eating. Can watch for ages before food and no flashing.not sure what to do as away for 2 weeks on Friday
    Do I add another dose on Friday or wait till I get back.
    Sure why they would flash after eating, maybe scrape and test water, I can only advise on what worked for me so to treat again would be your call

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    Donít they release a burst of ammonia when or shortly after eating?
    A bit like a good botty burp lol
    Might be that.
    Little and often instead of loads at once is the way forward


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    Hi guys do you bypass the shower when dosing or does it flow straight through
    thanks

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    I am now finding skin flukes again which is 2 weeks after finishing the last dose. So my conclusion is that under the treatment plan that I followed and in my pond in particular fluke solve plus was very affective at knocking back flukes but not as effective as I was hoping
    Cheers
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    Seem's like they are just spreading easier or the treatments are only sufficient in knocking them back. My fish have been flashing less since the Lernex pro although a couple of others have flashed now. Not sure if this is an after feeding ritual though. I have a few fish with a little sore here or mark there so have treated with acriflavine today to try and help overturn any bacteria issues. One of my fish has serious swelling/pineconing just near the beginning of the dorsal fin for about 1 inch of its back which I have been giving salt dips every 3-4 days with acriflavine too. Not sure if I will get it back to good health at this point but have to do my best, it has grown well so far this year as well

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    Sorry Ian to hear the treatment was quite as bombproof as one would wish (although does any treatment truely erradicate any parasite?)

    Just to recap you treated day 1, 7, 13
    Were you tempted to treat again as 21 days were referenced ...but if that's temp dependant then lots will be taking different course durations especially given some ponds were 26degrees or higher.
    I'm Junior fry who has struggled (not helped by a primitive filter setup) this season ... so i'm not in a position to critique others but i am interested in the struggles of koi keeping and mastering the art.

    But a few questions for you and please anyone advise me if these aren't relavent or if there are others more relavent
    How bio secure is your pond (is it roofed, screened to stop birds feeding)?
    You mentioned gassing off the water, do you use a dechorinator? As the meds will be less effective if there is chlorine (not sure about chloramide which i'm told stays active in the pond for 3 weeks) present
    Were you feeding during this period? I'm not sure if koi dealers absolutely no not feed during treatment periods.
    Please feel free to direct me to a thread on this topic

    Best regards and be well,
    Harvey

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey singh View Post
    Sorry Ian to hear the treatment was quite as bombproof as one would wish (although does any treatment truely erradicate any parasite?)

    Just to recap you treated day 1, 7, 13
    Were you tempted to treat again as 21 days were referenced ...but if that's temp dependant then lots will be taking different course durations especially given some ponds were 26degrees or higher.
    I'm Junior fry who has struggled (not helped by a primitive filter setup) this season ... so i'm not in a position to critique others but i am interested in the struggles of koi keeping and mastering the art.

    But a few questions for you and please anyone advise me if these aren't relavent or if there are others more relavent
    How bio secure is your pond (is it roofed, screened to stop birds feeding)?
    You mentioned gassing off the water, do you use a dechorinator? As the meds will be less effective if there is chlorine (not sure about chloramide which i'm told stays active in the pond for 3 weeks) present
    Were you feeding during this period? I'm not sure if koi dealers absolutely no not feed during treatment periods.
    Please feel free to direct me to a thread on this topic

    Best regards and be well,
    Harvey
    Sorry for the delayed reply.
    I did not treat on day 21 that would be a reference to a scrape that at the time was clear.

    I did not use declarator to as it can neutralise some medications so that’s why I topped very slowly and gassed off by allowing it to flow through my bacci shower that has no media in at present. I have checked this method with Chlorine Tablets and in my pond this works well.

    My pond is not covered but I do not believe that is the cause of finding flukes on my scrapes again. I feel that the flukes did not get killed down to a low enough level. I spoke to Fiona MacDonald who developed Fluke Solve Plus who said that the medication killed the flukes on my fish but feels that some flukes would have been hiding maybe in filters, bottom drains, nooks and crannies in pond or even under fish scales. She also said that the medication was effective enough to kill flukes for 3 weeks.

    As far as feeding goes I always reduce my feed from 3 times daily to once daily when using any medication. I feel that I need to do this to give filters time to recover but at the same time I feel that fish need some protein to keep their strength up. After treatment and water changes I usually increase the feeding over the next 2 weeks. I use Koyoshi pre and probiotic food and do regular water tests to monitor effects of medications but have not had any problems with water quality under this plan.

    Hope this helps, other people may disagree or have other ideas but that’s how we all learn and improve
    Thanks
    Ian

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