Welcome to Koi Forum. Is this your first visit? Register
Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: New Fish

  1. #1
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808

    New Fish

    Got a new fish that came in on Wednesday and for some reason he spends a lot of the time swimming up and down the window, like as if he's demented, could there be a reason for this anyone know?, his mate that came in the same time doesn't do it and neither do the other fish?

    Pond is new and parameters are spot on, it seems.



  2. #2
    Senior Member Rank = Supreme Champion Ajm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Durham
    Posts
    6,641
    Thanks / Likes
    13784
    Playing peek a boo?

    Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk
    Johnathan

  3. Thanks Tom Koi Thanked / Liked this Post
  4. #3
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808
    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Playing peek a boo?

    Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk
    Mrs thinks its quite funny, I'm not of the same opinion.

  5. #4
    Senior Member Rank = Supreme Champion Ajm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Durham
    Posts
    6,641
    Thanks / Likes
    13784
    Only been 2 days could it just be its never seen a window.

    If I change the tank setup or add some it new to the turtle tank they go crazy left right up down till they work out what's going on

    Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk
    Johnathan

  6. #5
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808
    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Only been 2 days could it just be its never seen a window.

    If I change the tank setup or add some it new to the turtle tank they go crazy left right up down till they work out what's going on

    Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk
    Got a bit of carp pox as well it seems, could be stress, the good thing is that he/she is eating well and seems well generally, never seen any of the other fish do what this one does though.

  7. #6
    Senior Member Rank = Grand Champion RS2OOO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    South East
    Posts
    4,327
    Thanks / Likes
    9992
    Sounds like a bit of stress like AJ says.

    Either that or its a lively young Tosai.

    Should settle down after a couple of weeks.

  8. Thanks Tom Koi, Ajm Thanked / Liked this Post
  9. #7
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808
    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Sounds like a bit of stress like AJ says.

    Either that or its a lively young Tosai.

    Should settle down after a couple of weeks.
    Noticed a fish I've had a few weeks now flash and today I saw my new Shiro flash a few times, trying to learn how to use the microscope so I can do a scrape and check, noticed some blood lines [like veins] in a couple of fins also.
    Had to treat the other fish yesterday for a scale that was starting to raise on tale tube, got him out sedated him and applied Tamodine under the scale and sprayed a topical spray over the top, had been fine until I took his mate out, will I think he was fine.

    Ponds been ok with the fish I had, until I added the two new ones, I'm thinning out my grow on tank now so that I can quarantine any new fish I get in the future, NPS strikes again perhaps
    Last edited by Tom Koi; 05-04-2021 at 09:56 PM.

  10. Thanks RS2OOO Thanked / Liked this Post
  11. #8
    Senior Member Rank = Grand Champion RS2OOO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    South East
    Posts
    4,327
    Thanks / Likes
    9992
    Definitely sounds like there's further investigation to do with the scope.

    Red streaks in fins I've always found to be water quality related, albeit can show up after the water quality issue is fixed leaving uncertainty as to the cause.

    Flashing obviously needs a closer investigation.

    Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

  12. Thanks Tom Koi Thanked / Liked this Post
  13. #9
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808
    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Definitely sounds like there's further investigation to do with the scope.

    Red streaks in fins I've always found to be water quality related, albeit can show up after the water quality issue is fixed leaving uncertainty as to the cause.

    Flashing obviously needs a closer investigation.

    Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk
    Red streaks are only on the two new koi as well. All parameters have been spot on, Chlorine, PH, Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate, I regularly dose with Envirex as well, I dropped at least 2inches of water on Wednesday as well, cause I fitted a new Amalgam to Drum, I use trickle in and overflow out through Skimmer.

    Be really disappointed if it was water quality, pond is 5000 gals profidrum combi and a 4 tier 1500 shower full of BHM, I dose the bio on drum with Activex as well.
    Last edited by Tom Koi; 05-04-2021 at 11:13 PM.

  14. #10
    Senior Member Rank = Grand Champion RS2OOO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    South East
    Posts
    4,327
    Thanks / Likes
    9992
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Koi View Post
    Red streaks are only on the two new koi as well. All parameters have been spot on, Chlorine, PH, Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate, I regularly dose with Envirex as well, I dropped at least 2inches of water on Wednesday as well, cause I fitted a new Amalgam to Drum, I use trickle in and overflow out through Skimmer.

    Be really disappointed if it was water quality, pond is 5000 gals profidrum combi and a 4 tier 1500 shower full of BHM, I dose the bio on drum with Activex as well.
    Could well be related to water quality prior to your ownership.

    Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

  15. #11
    Moderator Rank = Supreme Champion Feline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    6,168
    Thanks / Likes
    4821
    I wouldn’t worry too much about odd window behaviour, unless there is flashing, sulking or hanging in the water as well. Fish can see their own reflection from the inside of the window and some of them seem to find this fascinating. I have one fish who spends her entire time looking either at herself or us in the house, I’m not sure which.

  16. Thanks Wain, g mac, samp09, Tom Koi Thanked / Liked this Post
  17. #12
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Tosai Marine convert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    South staffordshire
    Posts
    32
    Thanks / Likes
    50
    I agree with Feline, I have one that when it catches a reflection of itself, seems to want to spend a lot of its time trying to fight itself.

  18. Thanks samp09 Thanked / Liked this Post
  19. #13
    Senior Member Rank = Hassai Twhitenosugar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    732
    Thanks / Likes
    1192
    I also have a fish that spends quite a bit of time just swimming at the glass, possibly admiring itself. It is a nice looking koi so don't blame him.

    I also have a Showa who thinks he's a cleaner wrasse. It spends a lot of time sat just below the bigger fish, occasionally nibbling their flanks. Bit of a weirdo really.

    As long as you keep checking your water and keep an eye on the fish, it'll probably resolve itself once the fish settle in. Sounds like you are doing everything you can to deal with any issues as soon as you identify any.

    Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk
    Last edited by Twhitenosugar; 06-04-2021 at 04:23 PM.
    13,000L fibreglassed raised pond with window

  20. Thanks samp09, Tom Koi Thanked / Liked this Post
  21. #14
    Moderator Rank = Supreme Champion Feline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    6,168
    Thanks / Likes
    4821
    I’m wondering if your fish just has a personality like my Sheba, she spends almost all day zooming around looking out of the window , here she is today while it was snowing and hailing

  22. Thanks samp09 Thanked / Liked this Post
  23. #15
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808
    Quote Originally Posted by Feline View Post
    I wouldn’t worry too much about odd window behaviour, unless there is flashing, sulking or hanging in the water as well. Fish can see their own reflection from the inside of the window and some of them seem to find this fascinating. I have one fish who spends her entire time looking either at herself or us in the house, I’m not sure which.
    I've definitely got a problem, I've seen the new fish hanging and sink then swim back up, I need to do a scrape, but I don't want to stress them trying to catch them, was gonna leave it until weekend.

    Is there a particular prognosis for when they do hang etc? Thanks

  24. #16
    Senior Member Rank = Kyusai Tom Koi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Neath
    Posts
    1,025
    Thanks / Likes
    1808
    Quote Originally Posted by Twhitenosugar View Post
    I also have a fish that spends quite a bit of time just swimming at the glass, possibly admiring itself. It is a nice looking koi so don't blame him.

    I also have a Showa who thinks he's a cleaner wrasse. It spends a lot of time sat just below the bigger fish, occasionally nibbling their flanks. Bit of a weirdo really.

    As long as you keep checking your water and keep an eye on the fish, it'll probably resolve itself once the fish settle in. Sounds like you are doing everything you can to deal with any issues as soon as you identify any.

    Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk
    There's definitely an issue with the two new fish at least, water parameters are bang on though. I'm using the NT Labs liquid test, I've got palintest tabs here, but find it easier to use the liquid tests.

  25. Thanks Twhitenosugar Thanked / Liked this Post
  26. #17
    Senior Member Rank = Jussai samp09's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    Suffolk
    Posts
    1,230
    Thanks / Likes
    2691
    My new Showa was doing this for a day or so when it stopped feeding but is completely normal again now, have scraped and only found 1 dead tric on it. Could be the settling in and weather but I would scrape to be sure.

 

 

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:39 AM. Online Koi Mag Forum
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3
Copyright © 2021 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.

vBulletin Improved By vBFoster® (Lite Version), © UltimateScheme, Ltd.