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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Hey Frim just finish the one in the garage.
    Lol just thought that would be an issue with tiny koi as it has a fry grill for the BD but the holes in that look a bit large so they would disappear down the BD etc.
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    Mark, I would just do a fast drip you should be ok through a dechlorinater but I would add some dechlor every few days to be sure wont do any harm.

    When making the overflow follow the instructions to the T, as the bend outside has to be lower than the bend on the tank or via versa cant remember now.
    Did you go for 11/4 " pipe ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    Lol just thought that would be an issue with tiny koi as it has a fry grill for the BD but the holes in that look a bit large so they would disappear down the BD etc.
    I have a 4 ins bottom drain in mine with a 4 ins stand pipe standing above water level,I cut slots all round the bottom vertically but obviously fry would go down it.

    So I got some fiberglass fly netting from Ebay dead cheap and quite rigid and made a sock to slide over the standpipes to the bottom and that worked a treat never had one go down there.
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    OK makes sense.

    I was thinking maybe to get it running I could run it with just the Eazy Pod and not the barrel filter just to get the tank etc maturing then add the barrel later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Hey Frim just finish the one in the garage.
    Haha brill. Got a point John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Mark, I would just do a fast drip you should be ok through a dechlorinater but I would add some dechlor every few days to be sure wont do any harm.

    When making the overflow follow the instructions to the T, as the bend outside has to be lower than the bend on the tank or via versa cant remember now.
    Did you go for 11/4 " pipe ?
    hi john , i think ive worked it out at 250ml an hour to give me 20% over the week should i up that to 30% over the week until the nitrite has reduced to zero, i got the 40mm push fit in the end, as long as the inlet is lower than the outlet do i have to have the big u in the tank or can it be say 6 inches down into the tank ?cheers john, mark

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    No Mark,you need two U bends one in one out or it wont work.
    The one in the tank where the water will go in make it a fraction too long so it can be swivelled up or down to get your tank water level right if you know what I mean Mark.
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    Should have said once it is primed that is it you can stop it if you want and it will go again.
    The beauty with the push fit is it can be swivelled any way you want and it can be tight against the tank glass.
    You may need something to stop the koi going down if they are small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    No Mark,you need two U bends one in one out or it wont work.
    The one in the tank where the water will go in make it a fraction too long so it can be swivelled up or down to get your tank water level right if you know what I mean Mark.
    hi john, i think i know what you mean , say the tank is 500ml deep and im out letting the water at the bottom outside 500ml does the internal inlet need to run to the bottom of the tank off the u bend ? i hope that makes sense, cheers john

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Should have said once it is primed that is it you can stop it if you want and it will go again.
    The beauty with the push fit is it can be swivelled any way you want and it can be tight against the tank glass.
    You may need something to stop the koi going down if they are small.
    i did think of putting a little filter/mesh on the top of inlet to stop escapees

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggys dad View Post
    hi john, i think i know what you mean , say the tank is 500ml deep and im out letting the water at the bottom outside 500ml does the internal inlet need to run to the bottom of the tank off the u bend ? i hope that makes sense, cheers john
    sorry john, that didnt make sense, if you look at the first pic in the link you sent me, if the left side stays the same, as long as the inlet is lower than outlet does u bend on the right hand side have to be at the same depth as the left or could that be further up ?cheers john , mark

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    Hi Mark, sorry for late getting back,it says the inlet has to be lower than the out let but I have my inlet at the surface as a skimmer effect but can swivel a bit to raise or lower the level in the pond of you get me.

    It is a bit confusing and I made mine wrong to start with,I will take a picture of mine in the morning so you can see Mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Hi Mark, sorry for late getting back,it says the inlet has to be lower than the out let but I have my inlet at the surface as a skimmer effect but can swivel a bit to raise or lower the level in the pond of you get me.

    It is a bit confusing and I made mine wrong to start with,I will take a picture of mine in the morning so you can see Mark.
    hi john, thank you for getting back to me, i think a picture of yours would be really helpful and would get me in the right direction, cheers mate mark

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    Hi Mark, the best I can do mate.

    It says the inlet has to be lower than the outlet and I think that is where I had my problem ( did it quite a few yrs ago ) as in the photo my inlet is higher than the outlet,and if I swivel the inlet down into the water as in the photo it drains out ok.

    So if you think about it it is draining with gravity so the inlet has to be higher.
    You have the gist of it now Mark let us know how you get on.
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    Should have said the small grey pipe at the bottom has nothing to do with it.
    Looking at the link again Mark as long as the exit pipe is higher than the U on the inlet if that makes sence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Should have said the small grey pipe at the bottom has nothing to do with it.
    Looking at the link again Mark as long as the exit pipe is higher than the U on the inlet if that makes sence.

    My brain hurts on a Sunday morning
    cheers for that john it does make sense even more so, now i have seen yours, will be giving this a go this afternoon so i will let you know how i got on, thanks for all the help mate cheers mark

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    How did you get on Mark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    How did you get on Mark?
    hi john, wellllllllll after much wailing and gnashing of teeth and quite a bit of spilled water luckily i managed to get most of it in my mouth i finally managed to get it flowing, i started off with the outlet 1 inch below inlet and nothing so lowered it another inch and nothing went on like this taking off 12 inches in all and it WORKED on the last go i was so pleased to see a little trickle of water, just need to tidy it up a bit and fiddle with a couple of things and will put up some pics, kudos to anyone who did this with solvent weld as it was quite awkward with push fit, thats more to do with my setup and not this ingenious little invention i would urge everyone who needs a trickle to try this, if a numpty like me can do it anybody can . also thank you john for pictures and encouraging words, cheers to frim for asking you to help out aswell, will post some pics later on. cheers guys, mark

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    Well done Mark said it does your head in

    At least it's going and once primed you can stop and start as often as you like.
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    P1000481.jpgP1000496.jpgP1000480.jpgP1000479.jpgP1000490.jpgP1000493.jpgP1000494.jpgP1000501.jpgP1000482.jpgP1000476.jpgP1000483.jpgP1000488.jpgP1000484.jpgP1000485.jpgP1000487.jpg so here we have the trickle, starts at the de-chlorinator, hose feed with clear tube on the end so i could see the water going up and control the drip better, then into tank, outlet with a filter on top to stop escapees, outlet into funnel (drip in photo) and into discharge hose pipe through walldown the garden to the ever thirsty cordyline. job done i really enjoyed doing this also its better for the fish and a lot less hassle than doing water changes every few days, thank you to everyone who helped, commented and encouraged john 1, frim cheers guys i will keep you updated on the fish growth, thanks mark

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