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    Growth within Gill

    HI All,

    I'm very worried about one of my fish. There seams to be a large growth within the gill which is extruding out of the gill and pushing it out quite substantially. See pictures.

    Any idea what this is and how I can treat it?
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    Thanks

    Will



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    Not much you can do with that unfortunately

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    Oh that's a shame. Poor fish. Agree there's not much you can do about this other than give him the best environment you can and hope he'll enjoy life for a good while longer.

    Here's another thread about the same issue:
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    Hi Will. Unfortunately yes it’s a tumour.
    However the fish may still be able to eat and act normally for now. It depends how rapidly the mass is growing as to how long the fish will be ok for.

    At some stage you may need to euthanise it before it suffers- it would be a good idea to order in some clove oil to do this with when the time comes.

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    I feared this response. Gutted!

    Thank you for the feedback. I will keep the water warm and will keep a close eye on it. Ill order in some oil

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    It's very sad. But it's amazing how creatures can adapt and continue in the face of such challenges. Things like this often look worse to us than they effect the fish so as long as he is still wanting to eat and behaving normally, he'll be enjoying life. With any luck you'll get to enjoy his company a good while longer yet, with the comfort that you know you can give him peace when the time is right.

    Having used a number of anaesthetics, I favour AquaSed. Easy to measure by counting the pumps, and much easier to dissolve for both topical treatment sedation and permanent sleep. Please have a read about it here and shop around for best price which may be Amazon:

    https://www.vetark.co.uk/pages/Aqua-Sed.aspx

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    Hi Will. As posted above, I have a fish with the same issue. Sorry to see you have the same problem.

    On my one, it developed quite rapidly over the summer. But despite the tumour, my fish is still feeding well and very sprightly. It even survived a dose of Alparex, so I'm sure your fish will probably carry on for the time being too. Especially as the cooler water we have now should make it easier for the fish to breathe through the remaining gill.

    I netted and sedated mine and it looks like the gill rakes are within the mass. And parts of the mass look like they have a blood supply, so I imagine the risk of it bleeding out is high if I/a vet attempted to cut some of the tumour out. So I'm leaving mine well alone and seeing how it gets on.

    As Feline suggests, have something ready you can euthanize it with when it looks like it's starting to suffer.

    I've got kusuri koi sedate on hand. For that stuff, It's just a case of doubling the dose needed to sedate the fish, and I suppose leaving the fish in the medicated water until all signs of life have well and truly gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twhitenosugar View Post
    Hi Will. As posted above, I have a fish with the same issue. Sorry to see you have the same problem.

    On my one, it developed quite rapidly over the summer. But despite the tumour, my fish is still feeding well and very sprightly. It even survived a dose of Alparex, so I'm sure your fish will probably carry on for the time being too. Especially as the cooler water we have now should make it easier for the fish to breathe through the remaining gill.

    I netted and sedated mine and it looks like the gill rakes are within the mass. And parts of the mass look like they have a blood supply, so I imagine the risk of it bleeding out is high if I/a vet attempted to cut some of the tumour out. So I'm leaving mine well alone and seeing how it gets on.

    As Feline suggests, have something ready you can euthanize it with when it looks like it's starting to suffer.

    I've got kusuri koi sedate on hand. For that stuff, It's just a case of doubling the dose needed to sedate the fish, and I suppose leaving the fish in the medicated water until all signs of life have well and truly gone.
    Yes that's how you do it Tom, I had to on my goromo that was suffering and it was almost instantaneous

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