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    Getting bored now

    Hi guys,

    I've posted so many times in the last few weeks about issues that I'm getting very bored of it now.

    So, in catching a few of my fish last weekend to scrape them, one of them went crazy thrashing about and has split it's pectoral fins, the thick leading edge has detached from the rest of the fin.

    I've been trying to find out what I can do, hoping it will just heal. I've obviously found out it won't and have only seen two treatments recommended for this issue, sew it up, or super glue it, but can't find any guides on how to do either.

    My preferred method would be glue.

    Can anyone tell me how to do either of them or post a link to a how to.

    Cheers,

    Jason



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    Hi Jason
    never had to do it but have known a few that have and it was super glue that they used.
    sorry not much more help but I’m sure someone on here will have done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Megson View Post
    Hi guys,

    I've posted so many times in the last few weeks about issues that I'm getting very bored of it now.

    So, in catching a few of my fish last weekend to scrape them, one of them went crazy thrashing about and has split it's pectoral fins, the thick leading edge has detached from the rest of the fin.

    I've been trying to find out what I can do, hoping it will just heal. I've obviously found out it won't and have only seen two treatments recommended for this issue, sew it up, or super glue it, but can't find any guides on how to do either.

    My preferred method would be glue.

    Can anyone tell me how to do either of them or post a link to a how to.

    Cheers,

    Jason
    Just pulled Duncan Griffith's book . Don t know if this will help lol.
    He mentions super glue in there lol
    Fred

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    Hi Sim, thanks for the reply, it's good to know I'm not going crazy and super glue is actually used.

    Freddy, that's amazing mate, thank you, the only issue is I can't enlarge your pics, so can't see any of the text.

    I'm assuming you catch the fish, sedate it, but then what, clean and dry the fin off any slime coat etc. Cover everything that isn't the fin so no glue can get anywhere else, as my experience of super glue is me sticking my fingers to everything, including themselves.

    This poor fish would just permanently have me attached to it.

    Thanks again guys.

    Jay

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    I assume that as said you just sedate and dry of the area with some kitchen roll and then stick it together.
    i would think you could use tropical dressing etc or it wouldn’t stick.
    would have thought there must be something on YouTube.

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    I can't find anything about this type of injury on YouTube, despite people saying it's a common netting injury.

    I'll just have to take the plunge. My issue, apart from sticking everything to everything, is how thin and delicate the fin tissue is.

    Jay

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    Hi. Have a Google of fin regeneration and see if you can find anything. I'm not saying that koi CAN regenerate pectoral fins but I know that some fish CAN regenerate some fins. I don't have time to look it all up sorry but it's worth a look.

    I thought I was going to have to sew my ochibas caudal fin together. I still might have to but nature appears to be taking care of it slowly. Not out of the woods yet though by any means.

    One tip I did read somewhere was before you do any sewing or glueing, go to your nearest fish monger and buy a few whole dead fish to practice on.

    Let us know how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Megson View Post
    Hi Sim, thanks for the reply, it's good to know I'm not going crazy and super glue is actually used.

    Freddy, that's amazing mate, thank you, the only issue is I can't enlarge your pics, so can't see any of the text.

    I'm assuming you catch the fish, sedate it, but then what, clean and dry the fin off any slime coat etc. Cover everything that isn't the fin so no glue can get anywhere else, as my experience of super glue is me sticking my fingers to everything, including themselves.

    This poor fish would just permanently have me attached to it.

    Thanks again guys.

    Jay
    Type in Google. Fred repairing koi fin.
    He operates on a koi fin
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    they should heal and grow back if its healthy and the water is good, my yamabuki lost pretty much all of the bottom 1/2 of its tail some how just saw something on the bottom of the pond then the yamabuki swam past and i saw it. It grew back in a year or so and looks pretty much the same as it did. Still have no idea how it happened

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    Hi Freddy,

    I've started to watch that one but it wasn't the same injury so I stopped watching. Have you watched it? Is it worth continuing?

    Seph, there is nothing to grow back, just something to knit back together.

    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Megson View Post
    Hi Freddy,

    I've started to watch that one but it wasn't the same injury so I stopped watching. Have you watched it? Is it worth continuing?

    Seph, there is nothing to grow back, just something to knit back together.

    Jay
    Yes mate watched it. Very good video.
    I have trimmed with scissors before.
    Then used pp to cautasaw the cuts. Of the trimming. And they all grew. Back like new. But never dealt with a split fin before. I think to glue it. You would have to apply with say a match stick or a ice lolly stick.
    Or a small piece of plastic.
    The vets I read the other day use something called surgical glue. Probably not as rapid drying as super glue. Or as sticky.
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    Ey up mate,

    That's cool, I'll watch the full thing then. Is it that video that weirdly has no sound too, or is that another I tried to watch?

    I've been really lucky that I haven't had to do anything silly like this before, I have taken a gill sample, but that's it.

    Grew back like new, that sounds incredible, and is great to know for future, although I hope to not have to use that knowledge.

    Cheers man.

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    Fred, definitely worth watching, that's an epic bit of surgery he does, but unfortunately not relevant to my issue.

    I can't believe how long he has that fish out of the water, even though it is sedated.

    I genuinely don't think I'd have the plumbs to do that.

    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    they should heal and grow back if its healthy and the water is good, my yamabuki lost pretty much all of the bottom 1/2 of its tail some how just saw something on the bottom of the pond then the yamabuki swam past and i saw it. It grew back in a year or so and looks pretty much the same as it did. Still have no idea how it happened
    Same as my ochiba. I saw it on the pond floor and thought it was a dead slug to start with. Then fished it out (see what I did there) and frowned at it for a bit before realising it was part of a fin. It was from the top of the fin. I am not sure if it's grown back or if I just no longer notice it missing.

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    Do you think if I chop my fingers off and leave my hand in pond water they will grow back?

    Jay

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    [QUOTE=Jason Megson;341610]Do you think if I chop my fingers off and leave my hand in pond water they will grow back?

    Jay[/.........Should do, just keep an eye on your ammonia and PH readings and everything should be hunky dory
    Oh, and keep yer filters clean wont yer......................

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    Cheers Anne, I'll keep you all updated, I've sharpened my secateurs, so all ready to start the experiment.

    Jay

 

 

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