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    Just scraped a few more and found a couple of live fluke, fist time I’ve seen themScrape after treatment with pp! is the course of action CT and fluke m?


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    I had flukes beginning of the year did one treatment and then a follow up using ct before, using fluke M.
    did the job for me all clear now.

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    I had flukes beginning of the year did one treatment and then a follow up using ct before, using fluke M.
    did the job for me all clear now.
    Thanks, what’s the reason for using CT before Fluke MScrape after treatment with pp!


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    It thins the mucus layer on the koi so make the treatment more affective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim View Post
    It thins the mucus layer on the koi so make the treatment more affective.
    Ok thanks Scrape after treatment with pp!


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    Quote Originally Posted by D’ster View Post
    Ok thanks Scrape after treatment with pp!


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    If the mucus is thick and there underneath.
    They can be protected by mucus.
    Use CT 12 hours before treating with fluke treatment. I used fluke m.
    Then 2nd dose 6 days later. For eggs.
    If gill flukes.
    That can also be debated depending on temperature.
    Manky sanke (syd) put a post on here with
    Tempreture s. Relating to eggs and 2nd dose.
    I did it 6th day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    If the mucus is thick and there underneath.
    They can be protected by mucus.
    Use CT 12 hours before treating with fluke treatment. I used fluke m.
    Then 2nd dose 6 days later. For eggs.
    If gill flukes.
    That can also be debated depending on temperature.
    Manky sanke (syd) put a post on here with
    Tempreture s. Relating to eggs and 2nd dose.
    I did it 6th day.
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    Thanks Fred,
    What dose do you use for the CT? I’ve just put the Fluke m in, would it be worth doing it before treating again in 6/7 days time?


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    Quote Originally Posted by D’ster View Post
    Thanks Fred,
    What dose do you use for the CT? I’ve just put the Fluke m in, would it be worth doing it before treating again in 6/7 days time?


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    Last year I did it twice. Before 1st dose and 2nd dose. It gases of pretty quick.
    So on that basis yes.
    But this year I did it once lol.
    Here is dosage of kusuri CT

    Dosage: 5g per 1000 gallons (4564 Litres) of pond water. Dosage to reduce pathogenic bacterial levels in pond water. Repeat after 24 hours for a maximum of 5 days.
    Dosage: 15g per 1000 gallons (4564 Litres) of pond water. Dosage to reduce parasite levels in pond water. Repeat after 24 hours for a maximum of 4 days. This treatment regime can be repeated after 14 days if necessary.
    Caution: Please check your pH and KH prior to using as Chloramine T can be very toxic in soft water. If your pH is below pH7 (acid) and has a general hardness below 6°dH (soft water) reduce the dose by 75%. Do NOT use with salt. DO NOT OVERDOSE. Over dosing can cause fish fatalities.
    Copied and pasted.

    And here is an important part

    Kusuri Chloramine T*can be used for the treatment against White Spot, Costia and bacterial Gill Disease, as well as the reduction of pathogenic bacterial levels.
    Do not use below 12.5°C (54.5°F).
    Please ensure that you read, understand and follow all Health and Safety guidelines on the packet. Please do not eat, drink or smoke whilst handling chemicals.
    Wear disposable vinyl or latex gloves and appropriate eye protection.
    Caution: Please check your pH and KH prior to using. Chloramine T can be very toxic in soft water. If your pH is below pH7 (acid) and has a general hardness below 6°dH (soft water) reduce the dose by 75%. Do not use with salt.

    About your PH.
    Good luck with the treatment mate.
    Also if you have been following a lot of threads. Do a follow up scrape 10 to 14 days after. 2nd dose of fluke treatment. Reason.
    Alot of us. Me included for the last 2 years.
    Have had a follow up infection after flukes.
    Myself last year whitespot. And this year costia. The costia for all of us has been a nightmare to get rid of. So be vigilant for a couple of weeks.
    And fingers crossed for you

    Hope this helps
    Fred

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    I had costia and flukes this year so used pp for first treatment and then fluke M.
    then used CT and fluke M for second treatment.
    pp will also reduce the mucus but unless you are treating for something else as well I wouldn’t choose to use it as it’s harsh treatment, ct doesn’t seem to affect the pond at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Last year I did it twice. Before 1st dose and 2nd dose. It gases of pretty quick.
    So on that basis yes.
    But this year I did it once lol.
    Here is dosage of kusuri CT

    Dosage: 5g per 1000 gallons (4564 Litres) of pond water. Dosage to reduce pathogenic bacterial levels in pond water. Repeat after 24 hours for a maximum of 5 days.
    Dosage: 15g per 1000 gallons (4564 Litres) of pond water. Dosage to reduce parasite levels in pond water. Repeat after 24 hours for a maximum of 4 days. This treatment regime can be repeated after 14 days if necessary.
    Caution: Please check your pH and KH prior to using as Chloramine T can be very toxic in soft water. If your pH is below pH7 (acid) and has a general hardness below 6°dH (soft water) reduce the dose by 75%. Do NOT use with salt. DO NOT OVERDOSE. Over dosing can cause fish fatalities.
    Copied and pasted.

    And here is an important part

    Kusuri Chloramine T*can be used for the treatment against White Spot, Costia and bacterial Gill Disease, as well as the reduction of pathogenic bacterial levels.
    Do not use below 12.5°C (54.5°F).
    Please ensure that you read, understand and follow all Health and Safety guidelines on the packet. Please do not eat, drink or smoke whilst handling chemicals.
    Wear disposable vinyl or latex gloves and appropriate eye protection.
    Caution: Please check your pH and KH prior to using. Chloramine T can be very toxic in soft water. If your pH is below pH7 (acid) and has a general hardness below 6°dH (soft water) reduce the dose by 75%. Do not use with salt.

    About your PH.
    Good luck with the treatment mate.
    Also if you have been following a lot of threads. Do a follow up scrape 10 to 14 days after. 2nd dose of fluke treatment. Reason.
    Alot of us. Me included for the last 2 years.
    Have had a follow up infection after flukes.
    Myself last year whitespot. And this year costia. The costia for all of us has been a nightmare to get rid of. So be vigilant for a couple of weeks.
    And fingers crossed for you

    Hope this helps
    Fred

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    Thanks for thatScrape after treatment with pp! should I go for 5g per thousand or 15gScrape after treatment with pp!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim View Post
    I had costia and flukes this year so used pp for first treatment and then fluke M.
    then used CT and fluke M for second treatment.
    pp will also reduce the mucus but unless you are treating for something else as well I wouldn’t choose to use it as it’s harsh treatment, ct doesn’t seem to affect the pond at all.
    Did the PP get rid of the Costia?


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    Quote Originally Posted by D’ster View Post
    Did the PP get rid of the Costia?


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    Didn't even touch them for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D’ster View Post
    Did the PP get rid of the Costia?


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    No mate fmg 3 times treat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Didn't even touch them for me.
    Agree mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D’ster View Post
    Thanks for thatScrape after treatment with pp! should I go for 5g per thousand or 15gScrape after treatment with pp!


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    Up to you on that one lol. Depends how strong and mature filters are

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Up to you on that one lol. Depends how strong and mature filters are

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    After the PP treatment it has knocked the filter back a fair bit, I’ll play it safe lolScrape after treatment with pp!


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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    No mate fmg 3 times treat.

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    Wow 3 times, is that the life cycle of the Costia or just how many times you needed to kill it offScrape after treatment with pp!


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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyboy View Post
    Last year I did it twice. Before 1st dose and 2nd dose. It gases of pretty quick.
    So on that basis yes.
    But this year I did it once lol.
    Here is dosage of kusuri CT

    Dosage: 5g per 1000 gallons (4564 Litres) of pond water. Dosage to reduce pathogenic bacterial levels in pond water. Repeat after 24 hours for a maximum of 5 days.
    Dosage: 15g per 1000 gallons (4564 Litres) of pond water. Dosage to reduce parasite levels in pond water. Repeat after 24 hours for a maximum of 4 days. This treatment regime can be repeated after 14 days if necessary.
    Caution: Please check your pH and KH prior to using as Chloramine T can be very toxic in soft water. If your pH is below pH7 (acid) and has a general hardness below 6°dH (soft water) reduce the dose by 75%. Do NOT use with salt. DO NOT OVERDOSE. Over dosing can cause fish fatalities.
    Copied and pasted.

    And here is an important part

    Kusuri Chloramine T*can be used for the treatment against White Spot, Costia and bacterial Gill Disease, as well as the reduction of pathogenic bacterial levels.
    Do not use below 12.5°C (54.5°F).
    Please ensure that you read, understand and follow all Health and Safety guidelines on the packet. Please do not eat, drink or smoke whilst handling chemicals.
    Wear disposable vinyl or latex gloves and appropriate eye protection.
    Caution: Please check your pH and KH prior to using. Chloramine T can be very toxic in soft water. If your pH is below pH7 (acid) and has a general hardness below 6°dH (soft water) reduce the dose by 75%. Do not use with salt.

    About your PH.
    Good luck with the treatment mate.
    Also if you have been following a lot of threads. Do a follow up scrape 10 to 14 days after. 2nd dose of fluke treatment. Reason.
    Alot of us. Me included for the last 2 years.
    Have had a follow up infection after flukes.
    Myself last year whitespot. And this year costia. The costia for all of us has been a nightmare to get rid of. So be vigilant for a couple of weeks.
    And fingers crossed for you

    Hope this helps
    Fred

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    Personally I would go for 10g to 15g per 1000 gallons for stripping mucus coat. As far as I'm concerned that dosage won't touch most parasites or flukes despite what it says on label so don't rely on it for that aspect. It probably won't touch your filter bacteria either unless they are already very weak to begin with.

    It is still such a small dosage it would be safe in soft water. Solely for stripping mucus you can use the lower end of the range (10g per 1000 gallons) if your pH is bang on 7 or lower and GH is also below 6.

    Before adding the fluke treatment I would do a dpd4 test and if getting a chlorine reading add just enough ST to get rid of it, then treat for the flukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D’ster View Post
    Did the PP get rid of the Costia?




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    sorry tric not costia trying to do to many things today!

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    I run my pond with ph over 8 as use bicarb and Kh of 3-4 I have used the standard dose of ct and doesn’t seem to have effected the pond.
    Does anyone know why it affect it?

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