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    Yeah I watched that yesterday which caused me to question. Don’t the photos in my initial post look like it though and not a bubble???


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    The first and last pics are through the digital eye piece which is much stronger so will be around 400 times


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    Hi mate,

    The very first pic you posted shows Trich and not air bubbles IMHO.

    At times it can appear still on a slide depending upon how long it has been on there before you find it and how much water is on the slide.

    When I scrape I separate the mucus into two or three ‘blobs’ and drop one droplet of water over the mucus blobs. This eases identification in my experience.

    I hope that helps and makes some sense.

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    Thanks. Does it sound right that I found a lot of tric but none moving???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapleyr View Post
    Yeah I watched that yesterday which caused me to question. Don’t the photos in my initial post look like it though and not a bubble???


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    Yes it does look like it from the photos.

    I’m no expert in this field but have watched lots of videos and done lots of reading. But have never found any parasites on scrapes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazkoi View Post
    Hi mate,

    The very first pic you posted shows Trich and not air bubbles IMHO.

    At times it can appear still on a slide depending upon how long it has been on there before you find it and how much water is on the slide.

    When I scrape I separate the mucus into two or three ‘blobs’ and drop one droplet of water over the mucus blobs. This eases identification in my experience.

    I hope that helps and makes some sense.

    Cheers

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    Thanks, you have been really helpful


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeh83 View Post
    Yes it does look like it from the photos.

    I’m no expert in this field but have watched lots of videos and done lots of reading. But have never found any parasites on scrapes


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    Thanks....nothing is simple with koi!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapleyr View Post
    Thanks....nothing is simple with koi!


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    Indeed.

    Gaz has many years of first hand experience so I would go with his judgement.

    I have read about adding a drop of water to the slide to aid identification.


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    Absolutely not. But if keepers see that as all part of the challenge and experience rather than FFS etc.. it keeps the hobby very interesting.

    if you ever want a chat, feel free to give me a shout - happy to help where I can.

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    Thanks....nothing is simple with koi!


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    gaz is spot on. I put a blob of water over the mucus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazkoi View Post
    Absolutely not. But if keepers see that as all part of the challenge and experience rather than FFS etc.. it keeps the hobby very interesting.

    if you ever want a chat, feel free to give me a shout - happy to help where I can.

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    Been practising again today and I am great at getting really clear or bubbles.....not much else. Best clarity I can get is with the 10/10 but I can’t get anything moving and wonder if I am seeing the wrong layer somehow.

    I have watched several videos and it looks so easy. I am using an old Brunel XSP so maybe need to invest in a new scope


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    What I do is get them in a bowl with a water level so the backs are out of the water, with the card you steal from Screwfix scrape from edge of gill / just behind pec all the way to the tail on both sides. It doesn't matter if you scrape under water the mucus will still stick if you are carful, slide the mucus off the edges of the card with 2 fingers and put it on the glass. Good idea to try to get a scrape on the underneath if possible bit tricky to get but worth doing. Chop the mucus up on the slide with a few drops of water if u need to, it thins it out to make seeing any bugs loads easier

    Also tric can be a sign of a dirty system so worth purging drains and giving things a good clean to make sure there's not a build up somewhere and more importantly than all that if you are going to PP make sure u have either peroxide or sodium thiosulfate measured out and ready to go in if there is a problem, and lots of air

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephuk View Post
    What I do is get them in a bowl with a water level so the backs are out of the water, with the card you steal from Screwfix scrape from edge of gill / just behind pec all the way to the tail on both sides. It doesn't matter if you scrape under water the mucus will still stick if you are carful, slide the mucus off the edges of the card with 2 fingers and put it on the glass. Good idea to try to get a scrape on the underneath if possible bit tricky to get but worth doing. Chop the mucus up on the slide with a few drops of water if u need to, it thins it out to make seeing any bugs loads easier

    Also tric can be a sign of a dirty system so worth purging drains and giving things a good clean to make sure there's not a build up somewhere and more importantly than all that if you are going to PP make sure u have either peroxide or sodium thiosulfate measured out and ready to go in if there is a problem, and lots of air

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    Good explanation mate cheers for that . Dose it work with all the premier inn key cards I seem to have haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapleyr View Post
    Been practising again today and I am great at getting really clear or bubbles.....not much else. Best clarity I can get is with the 10/10 but I can’t get anything moving and wonder if I am seeing the wrong layer somehow.

    I have watched several videos and it looks so easy. I am using an old Brunel XSP so maybe need to invest in a new scope


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    Hey Rap, try scraping from the pond edge and see what you come up with.
    I too use an old credit card or similar for the scrape and then a blob of water.
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    Will give it a go


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapleyr View Post
    Will give it a go


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    its not easy mate to find them initially but after a few trials you will get used to it, all above info is spot on the more mucus and water the better for viewing, once you get your "eye in" you will spot the little buggers, i hope its not going to be a bad spring for parasites due to a mild winter fingers crossed..........

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    You mentioned that it took you ages to figure it out. Could it have been so long that the trich died or the fluid dried up?

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    First scrape....

    I think so!


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    Last edited by Rapleyr; 10-04-2020 at 11:32 AM.

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