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    Quote Originally Posted by bowsaw View Post
    needs to be fully rotted manure or you will burn the roots and kill them
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    I have great experience with following bamboo varieties - in two groups - those which need definitely root barrier and those which do not need it - all perfectly surviving down to minus 25 dC (actually tested down to minus 29dC - when the beast from the east hit us hard couple years ago)

    Bamboos which need roots barrier / protection - best being min. 2mm HDPE foil min 60 cm deep dug into the soil and well bolted together around their designated growing section:
    1. Phylostachys Atrovaginata - beautiful, short nodes, really thick from bottom up, grows up to 6 - 8 m, not overly aggressive, as one of the very few Phylostachys varieties can deal also with wet soil - has air channels in roots preventing mold.
    2. Bashania Qingchengshanensis - vigorous growth, perfect for green fence - easy to trim, good in narrow spaces as well - but this one must have root protection around it - grows vigorously - up to 4-6 m height - quickly fills up the gaps
    3. Indocalamus Latifolius (var Hopei) - this one has one of the largest leafs - beautiful - grows up to 3 - 4 m, great also for green fence - prefers semi shade - not doing well in direct full sun. Needs good root protection as well - very good for narrow spaces as well.
    4. Semiarundinarria Yashadake - quite good one too - up to 2 - 2.5m height - somewhat slower growing / filling up - also good for green fence.
    5. Phylostachys Rubromarginata - need good roots protection, somewhat less dense leafs make it see through type - grows up to 8 m, does not like too wet soil - but like all bamboos need a lot of water - but also allowed to dry out a bit - not to have roots in constantly wet soil.

    One of the best densely growing bamboos - which do not need root barrier - I came across and I am very happy with it is Fargensia Rufa - grows up to 2 m - with good watering grows nicely dense - can be seen at our pond pictures - it grows around the natural pond zone. Best about this one it is, that contrary to other Fargensias this one creates leafs the very same year it grows new branches - other Fargensia varieties grow new branches in year one, but leafs on them only in year two - so you look at branches w/o leafs for whole first year. The other Fargensia we have it is Nitida - our original great one grown nicely for over 20 years, but has flowered and died out as all others around the world - so we have new seedlings since 7 years, nice - but Rufa is much better Fargensia based on my experience.

    Fargensia Rufa - grows around the pond, Bashania in the left upper corner - just for refference.

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    Just food for thought I guess...
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    am in Kent if your not far, have a clump forming bamboo you can have. Dont know the name its not looking to healthy as is been out of the ground for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegeemart59 View Post
    am in Kent if your not far, have a clump forming bamboo you can have. Dont know the name its not looking to healthy as is been out of the ground for a bit.

    Hi Vegeemart,

    Thanks for the kind offer and sorry for the late reply, for some reason this part of the forum doesn't load threads in date order for me so I missed your offer.

    Of the 3 bamboo plants I bought the Fargesia Black Dragon and especially the Phyllostachys Aurea Golden Bamboo have really taken off, to the extent that I've already been able to split them and make more.

    The Red Panda Bamboo (Fargesia Jiuhaigou) hasn't done so well but I put this down to the way it had been hacked to death by the eBay seller I bought it from. He'd basically cut all the stems down to around 30cm and whilst it now has numerous new shoots, they are skinny and relatively short. I think by this summer it should have recovered and start growing properly.

    I'll get a couple of updated photos and post them on here over the next few days, only that I removed all the lower leaves and thinned the plants out literally a few days ago to see if it gives the bamboo plants a boost to grow taller and thicker culms.

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    should be fine rs2000

    being a grass they grow from the base rather than the tip,
    the slow pond build thread

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    RS2000 how does your bamboo look now that you planted last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0765peter View Post
    RS2000 how does your bamboo look now that you planted last year?
    Hi Peter,

    The one (golden bamboo) that had thick culms to begin with has grown really well, around 7-8 foot tall and completely filled the buckets they're planted in and are ready to be divided into more plants.

    The other 2 varieties, black dragon and red panda (official names are further up this thread somewhere) were small to begin with and had very thin culms and to be honest all they've done is produce more culms and grow a bit taller but none of the culms are any thicker than they were last year. Each new culm is thin and spindly like all the previous ones and I don't know why they're not getting any thicker (pictures of those varieties online show thick culms).

    Other than that they all look healthy and good. Being kept in buckets they need an unbelievable amount of water every day.

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    I really like bamboo, the look of it, how it moves and sounds in the wind. We have a few varieties around the garden and some good growth this year.

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    I treated our garden to a new bamboo plant yesterday. Fargesia Rufa.

    Wife wasn't impressed with the bag of manure that was also sneaked into the boot of her car. It really stunk

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    if its not yet sweet smelling or smell free, it needs to rot down more before application or you are likely to damage or kill what ever your top dressing
    the slow pond build thread

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    Hopefully it will be ok, I mixed it at a rate of 4 parts soil to 1 part manure.

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    Advice on Bamboo Plants around pond

    Solid advice off everyone here. In my experience with Bamboo, the roots spread laterally and although the roots do penetrate deeper in search of moisture and such, nothing much runs below 12” deep. Below that seems to be feed roots only.

    The running types may well throw deeper runners, I have no experience of them.

    I have plain yellow stem, tiger, red, black and green stripe and all are fairly well behaved, with the yellow stem being the most vigorous of the above named. Once established, they will take as much water as you can give them happily and respond well to both top dressing with any good quality rotted organic matter (such as your manure mix you used) and general fertiliser. I favour Vitax Q4. You’ll get thicker culms if you feed.

    The critical times of year for feeding are spring when the temps come back up to growth temp and autumn when the following years new culms are forming under ground.


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