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    imprinted concrete

    has anybody any dealings with this stuff,thinking about it for the 55sqm of patio we need doing,i know its bad if you have to dig up but where its going theres no services underground to worry about,andi



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    imprinted concrete

    I quite like the wood imprint I have seen recently, I.e. pour the concrete and then basically shutter it, over the top, with a nice patterned piece of timber.

    When the wood is removed all the grain patterns and knots are left imprinted - pretty effective and looks good if thatís what you mean Andi?

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    the stuff im on about looks like paving slabs and a cobble edging,we were looking at slabs but this stuff looks so much easier and the price is roughly the same,but has the added bonus of it wont sink and is done in one go lol,heres a link to it,andi Pavers Yorkshire - Patios and Driveways | Impress Paving Gallery

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    Itís a cool finish, I like it myself...

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    I've had a driveway and path laid with imprinted concrete paid nearly £5000, and have to admit it's the worst stuff I could have bought. Obviously I can only speak about the company that laid mine, but here's what I found. Only afterwards did I find there was no guarantee. Although they cut slots through the concrete and fill with rubber compound to compensate for movement, the whole area started cracking after only 2 weeks and the surface broke up in several places. While the concrete is still wet they have to throw colouring powder onto the surface to stain it the colour you wanted. In this sort of weather the concrete starts drying out and the finish is very patchy. The other problem is that it has to be be treated yearly with a coat of resin varnish to keep it looking decent, so it isn't maintenance free, by any means. Like all other business's there are a lot of cowboys out there, so buyer beware. If there is no guarantee i wouldn't touch it. Hope this helps.

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    The above post is not dissimilar to things I have heard, particularly that it's prone to cracking.

    Quite a few installers near me and just as many people have had it done, some look really nice, but others that are only a couple of years old have faded back to the standard grey concrete colour.

    My patio is 45 square metres and I did it myself using paving slabs, cost around £1200 all in, including mixer hire. It has 10 tonnes of hardcore under it (I jack up my cars on it), 2 tonnes of sand and 2.5 tonnes of MOT type 1. It was back breaking work but the pond was even more so. Other than the physical side it wasn't that difficult. I mixed a lot of the cement by hand too. Took me 9 full days in total with no real help other than to lift a few of the larger slabs and to cut some of the more intricate slabs as I can't cut straight!

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    looks ok when done right by skilled people, esp if the footfall includes cars etc. but as said if done incorrectly it can fail fast.
    the slow pond build thread

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    had one company in today,not the one in link,quoted £4850 for 57sqm 2" hardcore and 5" concrete with fibers,im so glad i was sat down at the time lol,still got a few other quotes to get lol,andi

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    I'm no builder by trade so don't quote me as knowing what I'm talking about... But 2" hardcore sounds too shallow to me.

    For example, under the Nexus there is 6" hardcore and then 5" concrete on top.

    Under the patio is 8" hardcore including the MOT type one (6" plus 2"), plus around 2" Sand blinding on top, plus 2 - 3" mortar bed under each slab (which are 1" thick), so I dug just over a foot deep in total.

    I think concreting over a 2" base may lead to cracking very quickly. Depending on your soil type and if its only very light foot traffic you could get away without problems for the first few years.

    I personally wouldn't consider laying concrete on anything less than 4"sub base, and I think 6" to 7" would be better to be certain, especially if there's a possibility of putting something very heavy on the patio in the future.... Like an above ground pond!

    Before paying anyone to do anything, read this website, the best of its kind on the web, and give yourself a good understanding of what you should be looking for:

    http://www.pavingexpert.com/home.htm
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    hi rs it is only foot traffic,me,our lass and four tiny feet on the dog lol,the " is just to make it level and flat,the concrete they use they mix on site in a volumetric wagon and has fibers in it instead of using rebar,but after the price and the way they wanted to do it for cash,50% when hardcore comes and other 50% when concrete comes,we not going with them,ive never paid in full for a job before its complete and not going to start now when the bill was 5k lol,got someone coming tomorrow to price up for paving slabs again,which is what the wife wanted originally anyway,andi

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    18mths ago i watched two guys doing the neigbours drive way which is that block work...
    Now even they laid about 8inches down before 2inches of the gritty sand prior to laying the blocks and they have two cars parked on it most of the time...

    So more core the better.....

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    Ok just an update,the company in the link are doing it in october,had a few other round and some of the stuff they said made me laugh,then think well your not doing it lol,one company was going to put drains in and the water had to flow uphill lol,same one was putting 2 inch hardcore haha,impress are putting 8inch mot 1 and 4 inch fibrous concrete plus drains and a small soakaway,our lass just has to pick colours,theres 12 and shes confused lol,oh what is funny is the cowboys wanted more money,one wanted £2k more for same job,and said we had 10sqm more than 3 others had measured lol,andi

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    Did you get it done in the end and how is it holding out?

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    yes mate had it done,but wont be recommending the company,they put sealer on before it was completely dry which made it flake off,came back and sprayed with thinners to draw water out and supposedly reseal,it flaked in parts again,they got me to transfer £3k out of the £3.5k and havent heard anything else from them,it looks ok when wet but a soon as it dries its patchy,solicitor looking into it,been told by another company it needs seal stripping and more colour adding as it wasnt even the right look we were after,they threw loads down when started but as they got to end it got added sparingly to stretch it out as they hadnt enough with them i overheard one guy say,looking at £1k to strip,colour and seal,,theyve also changed business name from impress paving to impress construction,we are NOT impressed,,,,,,,andi

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    Sorry to hear this mate, especially when they originality sounded quite favourable compared to the other quotes you were getting as this lot were digging a deeper base etc.

    Still undecided on materials for my own drive but I might be tempted to go with one of the companies that show their processes on YouTube videos as they appear to be the most honest and upfront and willing to risk their reputation on social media.

    Alternatively I may just do a gravel or flagstone driveway myself.

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    Im not saying the imprinted isnt a good thing.they just messed up on the finishing.which made the whole thing look bad.the stamping itself is good just the colouring.if you find a reputable company then go for it.also have a look at resin drives.seen a few really nice looking ones....andi

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    I'd love a resin bound drive - Looks wise its perfect.

    But I work on cars and have read that you can't jack up cars on it or use axle stands.

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    Look at tarmac on a hot day . Wouldn't dream of Jack or stands on that so would say the same about resin like dose like nice tho

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    you could do as i used to with my hiab and put square jack pads under to spread the weight,although i once sank my hiab leg 4ft down on jack pad on a newly laid school playground when i extended boom out 38ft with 2t on end of it,that was an interesting day lol,,,,,,andi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andikoi View Post
    you could do as i used to with my hiab and put square jack pads under to spread the weight,although i once sank my hiab leg 4ft down on jack pad on a newly laid school playground when i extended boom out 38ft with 2t on end of it,that was an interesting day lol,,,,,,andi
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