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    I haven’t yet taken any off.
    I have 99 in the pond. I lost one yesterday but I’m not unduly worried as water tests are perfect, and I can’t see any sign of distress or flashing, quite the opposite they are going really well.
    My problem now being an irregular shaped natural type pond with rock sides is how to catch them. I need to remove about 70.
    There are some obvious boring fish, and a lot of duplicate makings esp in the Shusui but even so, it is going to be hard to only pick out 20.
    I have a mud pond the excess can go in, but it seems a waste as I don’t think I’ll ever see them again. Lol.

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    Awesome work RS! Some great growth so far! Bet it’s really fun waking up each day to see them. You need a tank like this one

    Want me to build another one for you haha!

    I’m sure once they have settled in they will start getting used to feeding and then once again get their big appetites back!

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    Been following your thread Chris, one of those tanks would be perfect.... But delivery would be a fortune!

    Bet it weighs a tonne.

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    Dudley,
    Part of the reason I only picked up 4 fry is cos I don't know how to get rid of the ones I don't want.

    Also don't fancy putting on eBay and having strangers snooping around my pond.

    Have you thought on how you'll get shot of your excess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Been following your thread Chris, one of those tanks would be perfect.... But delivery would be a fortune!

    Bet it weighs a tonne.

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    Haha yeah it’s got to weigh around 120kg I reckon, think it will be a 3 or 4 person lift. Hoping to decide where it’s future home is going to be in the garden this weekend.


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    Amazing how the weight adds up. My filter pit lid is just a basic frame with OSB on top and comes in at a whopping 90kg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Amazing how the weight adds up. My filter pit lid is just a basic frame with OSB on top and comes in at a whopping 90kg!

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    Wow! Yeah it’s crazy! My decking pond is so much lighter! Once the glass is in the new pond and it’s full, it’s going to weigh around 600kg I reckon! My baby Ranchu are finally developing now which is exciting. Cant wait to see how your baby Koi turn out!


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    Think my baby koi will be boring tbh.

    Showa turn out such a low number of quality fry I had hardly any chance of any of these 4 turning out good, but actually the Tancho could be interesting if the Sumi doesn't ruin it and the small one lacks Beni but if the Sumi avoids covering what Beni is there it could be ok.

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    Raising Koi Fry - Development progress & Pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Dudley,
    Part of the reason I only picked up 4 fry is cos I don't know how to get rid of the ones I don't want.

    Also don't fancy putting on eBay and having strangers snooping around my pond.

    Have you thought on how you'll get shot of your excess?


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    I am fortunate to have a couple of ponds at the farm. One is an old clay pit, we think dug in the 1800s to provide clay for bricks to build the farmhouse nearby and the other I dug 10 years ago in the field behind my house.
    Ill see if I can edit and attach a pic from my phone with tapatalk.

    Edit for photos. This is the pond I dug 10 years ago. Unfortunately our geese f..k it up. I was a bit enthusiastic as to the depth that it would actually fill to, thus the deck being so high. But its still 2m in the middle and never dried out in 10 years.

    Last edited by Dudley; 27-07-2019 at 04:22 PM.

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    what does F..K mean Dudley...……….is it a bit like KFC...……………
    Wow lovely place you have there, how interesting to watch your young koi develop in there

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    Hi Anne
    I don’t want to take over RS2000 post with this.
    So can I divert you to a new post I just put on about my field pond in pond security and protection section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Think my baby koi will be boring tbh.

    Showa turn out such a low number of quality fry I had hardly any chance of any of these 4 turning out good, but actually the Tancho could be interesting if the Sumi doesn't ruin it and the small one lacks Beni but if the Sumi avoids covering what Beni is there it could be ok.

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    You need to give it time RS. Its not boring watching them grow and you just don't know what they are going to be like yet.

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    Welcome to talk about whatever you like on my threads, especially when you put up pictures like that... Looks brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Welcome to talk about whatever you like on my threads, especially when you put up pictures like that... Looks brilliant.

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    That is kind of you RS
    But I will say one more thing about my field pond, its bloody rubbish for Koi
    I just did water test, and Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate are all showing up. It just goes to show what a few geese, and some amimals grazing in the same field with water run off into the pond can do.
    There are plenty of plants in it, and if I fenced the geese and cows away from it for a year it may be ok.
    But all is not lost, I have the old clay pit pond, and that has no animals near it, unfortunately its not too close to the house. But ill go get a water sample and test it.
    I got quite exited, I even went on New Forrest Koi site to look at buying fry, thinking i could put a big net in the pond. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudley View Post
    I am fortunate to have a couple of ponds at the f33 arm. One is an old clay pit, we think dug in the 1800s to provide clay for bricks to build the farmhouse nearby and the other I dug 10 years ago in the field behind my house.
    Ill see if I can edit and attach a pic from my phone with tapatalk.

    Edit for photos. This is the pond I dug 10 years ago. Unfortunately our geese f..k it up. I was a bit enthusiastic as to the depth that it would actually fill to, thus the deck being so high. But its still 2m in the middle and never dried out in 10 years.


    Lovely ponds you have there Dud.
    I think you need to fill them with small koi as some folk would die for something like you have.
    John

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    Raising Koi Fry - Development progress & Pictures

    RS I am back to the drawing board as to what to do with my excess Koi now.
    The other pond, the old clay pit, I mentioned I think has failed a water quality test.
    I have not looked at that pond for a couple of years, its right out the way. It’s covered in duck weed, so thought that’s good, but when I poked a stick in it the stink that came up was horrid. The water smells really bad pondy.
    pH is 7, so lower than any water usually here, but at least there was no trace of Ammonia, Nitrite or Nitrate, on a drop test kit. And KH was 6. Unfortunately I just ran out of GH test fluid so couldn’t test that.
    There is no natural spring or stream doing water changes, it’s purely rain from the fields.
    The trees need cutting back, thats my issue, little sunlight getting in, and tonnes of falling leaves rotting in the bottom. Oxygen level may be low I suspect.
    I need to put a boat out and test the middle as well I suppose.
    It’s so far from any services, I cannot put an air line to it, nor can I add fresh water.
    I fear it’s like the other pond, nothing I can do now. I think it’s a case of pump out, clean the bottom, cut back all trees on South side to let light in, and let it fill over the winter.
    Oh well, who wants some young koi? Raising Koi Fry - Development progress & Pictures
    Photo taken late last night, thus dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudley View Post
    That is kind of you RS
    But I will say one more thing about my field pond, its bloody rubbish for Koi
    I just did water test, and Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate are all showing up. It just goes to show what a few geese, and some amimals grazing in the same field with water run off into the pond can do.
    There are plenty of plants in it, and if I fenced the geese and cows away from it for a year it may be ok.
    But all is not lost, I have the old clay pit pond, and that has no animals near it, unfortunately its not too close to the house. But ill go get a water sample and test it.
    I got quite exited, I even went on New Forrest Koi site to look at buying fry, thinking i could put a big net in the pond. Oh well.
    will definitelycheck my mates spring fed pond before putting any in

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    Doesn't sound too good Dudley. Natural ponds like that are a different ball game to our enclosed Koi ponds and on such a scale I wouldn't know where to start in managing the water within them.

    Also the water may be tainted with pesticides and such like from the fields.

    Whichever way you look at it, if you have a day job then cleaning these and prepping them for what will essentially be Koi cullings seems like a hell of a lot of work for something that may ultimately get neglected again over the long term.

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    A couple of the fingerlings aren't looking too good tonight (been working all weekend, just had first chance to properly check on them and its 1am).

    1 sitting on the bottom titling onto its side (smallest one) and another with a swim bladder type problem as its back half keeps floating upwards.

    I transferred them to the pond at the beginning of last weeks record breaking heatwave. Tank temp was just under 27C and pond temp was 25.5C. I acclimatised them over 2 - 3 hours and they were fine through Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

    Weather and temperature took a sudden change for the worse on Saturday and now 5 days after transferring them the pond has dropped all the way down to 20C.

    Concerned that this 7C temp drop might have taken its toll. Up until the transfer the only temperature range they'd ever experienced was 25C to 28C.

    They've not grown at all since the transfer.

    Pond doesn't have a heater, not that having one now would be any use as I think the damage is already done.

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    Sorry to hear that mate hope you can get them sorted

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