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    I am experimenting feed wise this year.
    1 big feed a day . Instead of lots of 5 to 6
    Little feeds.
    Which I did with my others. The last few years.
    I don t see a difference in growth. More or less same size. As other years.
    Time will tell.
    I am baffled. I thought they would grow slower.

    There looking good RS. Coming a long nicely.

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    That'll be interesting Fred, because I haven't noticed the growth difference either. Back to feeding lots again now.

    Would be a good experiment if you had 2 batches of fry to compare the difference.

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    What I have found is they fill up fast then two minutes later they are looking for more,so greedy allways hungry.

    Feed mine little and often,,last feed is at half four when they get a lot and let them graze on it and that's it no lights at all.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    What I have found is they fill up fast then two minutes later they are looking for more,so greedy allways hungry.
    Same with mine John.

    On weekdays fed big in morning then every 2 hours in evening. Total 4 to 5 feeds.

    When I'm home they get fed every 2 to 3 hours all day till 10pm. Total 5 to 7 feeds. Average 5x 4mm pellets each per feed.

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    You count the Rs?

    The pellets I mean,ok if you have a couple I suppose but I have to just throw it in.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    You count the Rs?

    The pellets I mean,ok if you have a couple I suppose but I have to just throw it in.
    Don't count them.... just know that a big pinch is around 20 pellets, and I've only got 4 fry .

    The little one only gets 1 or 2 per feed, because she's stupid and won't go to the surface on her own, will only follow the others, who then eat the food before she gets there!

    Even with mussels she follows the others, who then eat it. But she won't leave the shoal to feed by herself even if she spots the food first.

    That's the frustrating thing with only a small number of fish, if you get a stupid small one, it stays small and stupid.

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    24 Weeks old.

    Sumi developing slowly.

    Largest one is over 20 cm, smallest I think around 15cm.

    Currently at approx. 18C, unheated but in the Lean-To / Conservatory. The large night/day temp fluctuations don't seem to bother them and they're eating loads.


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    20cm not bad at all mate must be doing some it right

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    I didn't notice Mark Gardner's koi-raising videos mentioned in this thread, but perhaps they may be of interest to one or two of you:

    Mark Gardner - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    20cm not bad at all mate must be doing some it right

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    Thanks mate.

    They're only in 80 gallons. Didn't expect them to grow so big so quick, but too late to put them outside now. Wonder if they'll keep growing in that volume.

    If anyone interested I'll be giving a couple away in Spring.

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    Its quality of water as much as quantity to help growth ?? So water must be spot on

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    Already rob 2 from fred for spring haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Its quality of water as much as quantity to help growth ?? So water must be spot on

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    It is mate. Change 75% per week... With buckets to temp match.

    The pressure filter is brilliant at maintaining parameters. To be honest I've always found pressure filters good for bio and more bullet proof than moving bed... But that's just my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    It is mate. Change 75% per week... With buckets to temp match.

    The pressure filter is brilliant at maintaining parameters. To be honest I've always found pressure filters good for bio and more bullet proof than moving bed... But that's just my experience.

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    I have found that a moving bed takes a long time to mature. but once mature. brilliant. its having the patience to wait that time is what counts.
    never had a pressure filter. so can t comment on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    24 Weeks old.

    Sumi developing slowly.

    Largest one is over 20 cm, smallest I think around 15cm.

    Currently at approx. 18C, unheated but in the Lean-To / Conservatory. The large night/day temp fluctuations don't seem to bother them and they're eating loads.


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    I am impressed with grove RS. nice one mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    24 Weeks old.

    Sumi developing slowly.

    Largest one is over 20 cm, smallest I think around 15cm.

    Currently at approx. 18C, unheated but in the Lean-To / Conservatory. The large night/day temp fluctuations don't seem to bother them and they're eating loads.


    IMG_20191107_151306.jpg

    Coming along well Rs, think yours are the same age as mine born in May?
    Dont hear from Davej wonder how his are doing.
    Good idea with the pressure filter though I have never used one,gone back to a couple of brushes in my settlement as it wasnt coping very well and must say it is doing a great job trapping the crap,thanks to Stuffyrats idea when he was here.
    John

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    Yep, born in may John.

    I have never even cleaned out the pressure filter I'm using despite chucking loads of food in multiple times a day.

    It is rated for 4000lph but I'm running 10,000 lph through on a 380 litre tank and water is crystal clear and parameters perfect. Fish have no choice to grow as they need the strength to deal with the extremely strong water current. I have no idea how they sleep what with having to constantly swim so hard. (Pump is off for the photos).

    Yet every now and again I'll get a nitrite or ammonia spike in the main pond despite having 76 litres of k1 moving bed. But in pond terms 2 year old media is still not classed as fully mature.

    Shame Davej hasn't updated his fry thread but I'm sure he'll be back.
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