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Thread: 2025 Cost/Kg survey
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21-03-2025, 10:06 AM #1
2025 Cost/Kg survey
So it's 2025, it's time to buy some non-winter food and so it's time to look at current costs and compile a cost per kg.
Food cost per Kg 5Kg £/Kg 10Kg £/Kg 15Kg £/Kg 25Kg Aquasource - Colour Boost 9 (90) Aquasource - Growth 7.5 (75) Aquasource - Balance 9 (90) Aller Aqua Primo 1.70 (42.50) Medikoi - Probiotic Growth 14.6 (73) 13.5 (135) Medikoi - Health 12 (60) 10.5 (105) Medikoi - Stable Colour 12 (60) 10.6 (105) Hakari - Gold 14 (70) 10.9 (109) - Hakari - Staple 10 (50) 7.5 (75) - Hakari - Growth - - - Saki-Hikari - Colour 23.6 (118) 16.3 (245) Saki-Hikari - Balance 18.9 (94.5) 11.3 (170) Saki-Hikari - Growth 23.6 (118) 20.6 (206) 12.93 (194)
I've deliberately avoided the 3Kg and 2Kg because they're horrifically priced.
Note:
* I've also avoided JPD due to the impact on the water.
* Medikoi does use non-marine proteins from previous investigations.
There's definitely a £3-10 increase in some of the foods this year since Aug last year.
EDIT:
* updated with S-H 15Kg prices sans retailer points.
* I've nuked the 2Kg column in favour of adding 25Kg column for the Aller Primo.
14000l airlifts 58W total: 2010 Chargoi, 2022 Doitsui/Tancho/Kujaku/Hi Utusri, 2023 Agasi/Doitsui
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21-03-2025, 10:11 AM #2
Ordered Hakari Gold 10Kg, seems it did a decent job last year.
I may have to put the net up though, last year we had 7 magpies that gorged themselves. By the end of season looked chunky and very colourful plumage.
They've woken up and are searching/demanding food actively now.14000l airlifts 58W total: 2010 Chargoi, 2022 Doitsui/Tancho/Kujaku/Hi Utusri, 2023 Agasi/Doitsui
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21-03-2025, 11:01 AM #3
your saki figures look a little high mate, where is that from?
prices on saki have gone up in the last couple of years, but not massively.
coastal koi prices...
https://coastal-koi.com/product-cate...ders/koi-food/
15kg of balance is £169.95 free delivery and £8.45 worth of voucher points effectively making it £161.50 £10.76/kg
15kg growth £193.95 free delivery and £9.65 in point so £184.30 £12.28/kg
15kg colour £245.95 free delivery and £12.25 in point so £233.70 £15.58/kg
but i usually wait until the national show as there are usually some good prices on food with a bit of hagglingLast edited by davethefish1; 21-03-2025 at 11:04 AM.
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21-03-2025, 12:03 PM #414000l airlifts 58W total: 2010 Chargoi, 2022 Doitsui/Tancho/Kujaku/Hi Utusri, 2023 Agasi/Doitsui
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24-03-2025, 04:19 PM #5
Aller Aqua Primo
£42.50 for 25kg
https://bulkfishpellets.co.uk/collec...ler-aqua-primo
£1.70 per kilo.3070 Gallons. 4" Bottom Drain and Skimmer. Draco Solum 16 Drum. Anoxic Filtration. Air lift returns.
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25-03-2025, 01:38 PM #6
primo-float-plus
I'll add that to the list as it seems to be fish based rather than non-marine.14000l airlifts 58W total: 2010 Chargoi, 2022 Doitsui/Tancho/Kujaku/Hi Utusri, 2023 Agasi/Doitsui
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25-03-2025, 02:53 PM #7
Does any one use Takazumi at all ?
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25-03-2025, 04:14 PM #8
Someone asked that previously - specifically if it was another Coppens rebrand:
after countless hours researching....
my attitude to koi food is unless they say what factory actually makes the pellets... it's made by coppens.
the only possible reason for all the secrecy and not saying where the pellets are actually made, is to fool people into buying a product thats made by coppens....14000l airlifts 58W total: 2010 Chargoi, 2022 Doitsui/Tancho/Kujaku/Hi Utusri, 2023 Agasi/Doitsui
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25-03-2025, 05:29 PM #9
I have had 2 or 3 Takazumi varieties and my Koi loved it, no problems, no oily film, water discolouration or excess waste. The Easy sinking and Yugen were well liked and the High growth good for tosai.
No reson to think it's made by Coppens, https://takazumi.nl/about-us/?lang=enLatest: Sansai Budo Goromo Yamabuki, Nisai; ShiroUtsuri OchibaShigure,Tosai; Beni Kikokryu,KinMuji
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26-03-2025, 09:21 AM #10
koi being on it for over 12 months now. and as kiOgon says no problems .
keith
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26-03-2025, 10:15 AM #11
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26-03-2025, 06:36 PM #12
hi
No was using it before the lads built MKII pond. Id being over too Grimsby to Elite koi early spring and decided too try it.
I shall be buying some more on Saturday when i go select a goshiki in the grow out competition .
keith
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18-04-2025, 10:25 PM #13
Just a bit of advice, I have mixed fish pond around 18000 ltrs, with both goldfish and koi. The koi are still young between 12 -30cm in size.
As we can see Koi for is expensive so I was looking at the Aller site and saw the Aller aqua Bona Float, it has a high 42% protean Aller Aqua Bona Float, 4.5mm, 20kg - Buy in Bulk and Save £££s - SW Bulk Fish Feed Supplies
and / or Orea Float https://bulkfishpellets.co.uk/collec...39513732120776 which may be better suited for goldfish.
As you can see the cost is lot less, it's for mix fish, I don't intend to show i just would like the koi to grow a bit.
What are your thoughts, none, one or both?
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19-04-2025, 08:33 PM #14
Regarding the Orea float, at 33% protein The Koi will want more protein than that over the summer, but if you regularly feed them treats like mussels, prawn, calci worms that would help.
3070 Gallons. 4" Bottom Drain and Skimmer. Draco Solum 16 Drum. Anoxic Filtration. Air lift returns.
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22-04-2025, 01:38 PM #15
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22-04-2025, 02:38 PM #16
hi
id say its 4mm nothing on any off the tubs to say what size pellets are. just buy the tubs by weight.
keith
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23-04-2025, 07:57 AM #17
I got a bag of the Prima float plus to try out.
Seems ok to me, a little oily on my hands but none floats on the water and the koi seem to enjoy it.
I am mixing it with my normal food which has some colour in it,so will see how it goes.John
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23-04-2025, 08:40 AM #18
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23-04-2025, 06:19 PM #19
seen there's a 'new' koi food doing the rounds on facebook and you tube.
'nutramare' £85 for 10kg
https://nutramare.co.uk/
shpeel says it's a german brand, the ingredients look a bit different,
the price isn't bad but i still think it's a bit close to saki prices to be a field tester for them
maybe when it's had 10 years results and won awards with fish at shows...
plus coppens being german and the only koi food manufacurer in the EU i know of....
Last edited by davethefish1; 23-04-2025 at 06:22 PM.
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25-04-2025, 07:14 AM #20John
Skimmer to bd or not
Yes exactly that BD needs a proper ball valve. Skimmer is ok with slide valve as it's not so...