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Thread: 2025 Cost/Kg survey
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25-04-2025, 07:16 AM #21John
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25-04-2025, 11:00 AM #22
IIRC Koi can only take a max of 37% of protein in their diet (as they've evolved with a varied diet). Any more and it's usually passes through and becomes additional waste/proteins to be skimmed off.
32-35%+treats is probably a good compromise - a solid base growth but then a varied boost.
Most of the growth feeds are around 45%.
The next question is what type of protein - I suspect that fish-originated and insect proteins are easier to digest for koi rather than animal such as chicken or other non-aquatic animal proteins.
Hakari Gold is 35% protein minimum. From memory Medikoi probiotic is 37% but animal-originated meal.
Mine wander around the pond snacking on snails and insect larvae too.14000l airlifts 58W total: 2010 Chargoi, 2022 Doitsui/Tancho/Kujaku/Hi Utusri, 2023 Agasi/Doitsui
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25-04-2025, 12:35 PM #23
I think fishmeal is the ideal protein source for foods, white fishmeal being the best but don't quote me on that.
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25-04-2025, 05:25 PM #24
For anyone interested Aller Aqua Primo 6mm is now back in stock since being sold out from at least March and at £42.20 with free shipping for 25kg is excellent and from what I’ve read it’s worth a try so I’ve just ordered a bag I’ll let you know how it goes
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25-04-2025, 05:52 PM #25
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25-04-2025, 08:41 PM #26
Keep us updated mate . I've got this year covered for food with shogun and sh balance that I've won ! So super cheap lol . But eventually will be needing some more i don't think I'll be spending on sh can buy a bloody car for less now !
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25-04-2025, 10:39 PM #27
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25-04-2025, 11:46 PM #28
white fish meal is better than standard fishmeal,
there's also a whole different level once you come away from sand eels that the Europe uses.
and use sardine fishmeal and other more nutritional fishmeals available in Japan and Australia.
I think the guy at JPD was doing some food with a very high quality fishmeal from Australia.
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27-04-2025, 08:28 AM #29
What would the ideal ingredients be for a koi food? I was looking into making my own pellets the other day out of curiosity and was thinking ingredients wise of something along the following:
White fish meal
Krill meal
Spirulina
Wheat bran
I didn't know what else after this but maybe salmon oil? I was wondering if you could make it yourself and save a load of money with control of what goes in, but lose a lot of time in return!
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