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    Question 2022 Choice this year? What's yours?

    So after the dismal water colouring and fish performance of JPD 'colour' last year leading to the return to a Medikoi, although not the probiotic in previous seasons but a blend of Wheatgerm and Health. I still have enough for at least 6 months and I'm likely to stick with it.

    I will look at options for spirullia, but it seems near impossible to find pure flakes or pellets of the stuff.


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    I got a bag of powdered spirullia off the bay for my fry and and roll the pellets around in it with some bactoplus food spray .

    Sam gave me the idea as he did the same only with salmon oil instead of the food spray .

    It's cheap as chips and a little go's a long way
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPIRULINA...-127635-2958-0

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    5Kg of NT Labs Medico Heath again this time around.

    Although the Chargoi is turning into a pellet hoover.
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    i also bought 1 kg of spirulina powder and other powders on the internet. At least in the Netherlands it is rather easy to find

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    Everyone is throwing their hard earned at Saki Hikari Colour Food this year.

    Even places the don't usually stock it have been selling it, and going out of stock.

    Can't think why the sudden interest

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    Just received a large bag of Medikoi wheatgerm. So we’re onto the lower temp feeding regimen. I still have plenty of the health for next year. Possibly not need more if blended with the wheatgerm!

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    feeding balance down to 12C then multiseason down to 8C (if it gets that low my pond stuck at 12C unheated last winter...)

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    Just started on a new 15 kg of balance. Still at 18 holding nicely heat pump on a couple of hrs a day.
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    Mine have been on aquasource this year, very impressed. Definitely less waste compared to some of the queni food and medikoi in my opinion. They had hi-growth all summer and balance plus this autumn, which can be fed down to 8c so plan to use that right through to next summer. Plus the usual supply of more natural foods.


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    hi
    Has anyone tried Takazumi koi food from doing a little searching its made in the netherlands is it another product from coppens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rolo View Post
    hi
    Has anyone tried Takazumi koi food from doing a little searching its made in the netherlands is it another product from coppens.


    keith

    after countless hours researching....
    my attitude to koi food is unless they say what factory actually makes the pellets... it's made by coppens.
    the only possible reason for all the secrecy and not saying where the pellets are actually made, is to fool people into buying a product thats made by coppens....

    not that coppens is bad at all... but why pay a premium for repackaging?

    saki hikari has the actual manufacturing plant named on each bag.
    and they are not all the same, as they have more than one manufacturing plant.

    for me it's not just about what factory extruded the base ingredients into a pellet.
    but what and where those range of ingredients come from?
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    just found address for Takazumi and coppens totally different addresses .
    E A is the uk distributor.

    keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolo View Post
    just found address for Takazumi and coppens totally different addresses .
    E A is the uk distributor.

    keith
    just had a quick look at takazumi pricing...
    takazumi growth or mix or vital is about £9.70/kg for 10kgs vs £11.33/kg for 15kgs saki growth, or £10.13/kg for saki balance.

    up to you mate
    but i wouldn't want to pay similar kind of money for a food without a proven track record and evidence.
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    this is why i asked the question.

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    Pay the extra 40p per kg and get the balance been great for me !

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    not that it helps any...
    but here is a pic of Takazumi's premises.
    maybe they would email some pictures/video of the production line on where and how they make and pack the pellets ect...
    if you emailed them?


    like hikari did a youtube video...








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    Quote Originally Posted by davethefish1 View Post
    not that it helps any...
    but here is a pic of Takazumi's premises.
    maybe they would email some pictures/video of the production line on where and how they make and pack the pellets ect...
    if you emailed them?


    like hikari did a youtube video...







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