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    Can u get lost colour back ?

    Hi just wondering if you can get the colour back on koi once they’ve lost it. I have a couple of Mature Kohaku thatve lost 99.9% but was told a colour enhancing food might get it bk ? I’m a bit sceptical so thought I’d ask



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    Some klays are meant to restore some colour I was told plus colour enhancing foods.

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    In my experience, this has happened with one of my Kohaku and others with more experience advised me at the time that once beni has gone, that’s most likely it.

    I personally wouldn’t hold out much hope but you never know.

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    Last edited by imc28; 21-06-2020 at 06:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imc28 View Post
    In my experience, this has not happened with Kohaku and others with more experience advised me at the time that once beni has gone, that’s most likely it.

    I personally wouldn’t hold out much hope but you never know.

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    When I asked the question fairly recently with regards to colour being lost due to hard water I was told that colour enhancing food and or some klays would be worth a try. Maybe if it's caught early enough it's more likely to work?

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    I would've thought colour disappearing completely or almost completely (rather than just reducing in intensity) is a genetic issue rather than a water hardness/quality issue.

    Which if that is the case, I can't see that any amount of clay or colour enhancing foods would bring back the colour.

    Mind you they will help your other fish, so no harm in trying I suppose.

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    I suppose the only way to find out is try it and see what happens.

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    I have seen similar things happen in the natural world - but only in the film "Cocoon"
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    Lol nice one Colin

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    Next you'll be saying you had a lizard that changes colour, looks like it's wearing mittens and it's eyes move independently from each other oh yes and it's got a very long tongue lol

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    Thx guys - I’m learning loads on here with your help . Interesting that GH affects colour as e’re in an area with v high GH - is there a way to soften the water ? Bearing in mind tho that my pond holds in excess of 20k gallons

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    You may need to look at an RO system possibly but as you have a lot of water to deal with you may need a big RO system to cope? There is a section on here for RO topics so maybe worth a look on there. Or maybe give Mankey Sanke a PM as he's the one to speak to water chemistry wise. He's a really helpful bloke so definitely give him a try first if the RO section doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo8003 View Post
    Thx guys - I’m learning loads on here with your help . Interesting that GH affects colour as e’re in an area with v high GH - is there a way to soften the water ? Bearing in mind tho that my pond holds in excess of 20k gallons
    20k gallons? That sounds like a lake

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikokuryu John View Post
    20k gallons? That sounds like a lake
    Size is relative lol one person's pond is another person's lake and vice versa

    Compared to my pond it's a bloody ocean lol

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    In my experience Beni will not return once lost, I am not sure if anyone knows exactly why, but it is a mixture of genetics, hard water, and water quality ie healthy fish. as been said above.

    But this might help.....Sorry..i'll get my coat !!DSC01192 (Large).JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishplanetkoi View Post
    In my experience Beni will not return once lost, I am not sure if anyone knows exactly why, but it is a mixture of genetics, hard water, and water quality ie healthy fish. as been said above.

    But this might help.....Sorry..i'll get my coat !!DSC01192 (Large).JPG
    I hope that is a waterproof marker or it will just wash straight off

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    Wrong link !!!

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    You'd be better off using one of these than that pen -

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sXXFOuBNJfey09

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    I believe if colour disappears (i.e loses colour into a white background) it won't come back. Except Sumi of course.

    But if the colour changes when transferring from soft to hard water, or from inside to outside it can be reversed if you put the fish back into soft water or move it back inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimley Koi keeper View Post
    I hope that is a waterproof marker or it will just wash straight off
    That’s why the beni keep disappearing! I’m using the wrong marker

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    Think I agree once it goes there not really much chance of it returning, and if it does it’s weak looking like secondary Hi.

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