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  1. 10-11-2025, 02:22 PM #1
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    Ki Yamatamiski

    Hi,
    dont know if this is the right variety ?
    koi.jpg


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  3. 10-11-2025, 04:36 PM #2
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    hariwake ?
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    They look like Hariwake to me as well, but the picture isn't the best.

    Colours look vibrant.
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  5. 11-11-2025, 01:56 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedstone View Post
    Hi,
    dont know if this is the right variety ?
    koi.jpg
    Could this be a juvenile KIRIN that WADA KOI FARM is diligently breeding?
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  7. 11-11-2025, 01:58 AM #5
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    Although it seems that most of the varieties have exhausted their potential for breeding, a very recent trend has been to replace the originally red varieties with yellow instead of red.
    There seems to be some keenness on the part of some of the breeders, particularly the smaller ones, to add to the uniqueness of their breeding.

    This list summarises some of them.
    rare variety KOI

    In recent years, the trend has been.
    For example.

    KOHAKU・紅白 → KIJIRO・黄白
    KUJYAKU(KUJAKU)・孔雀 → KIRIN・麒麟
    SHUSUI・秋翠（秋水）→ KISHUSUI・黄秋水
    These varieties are already familiar to us after years of fixation.

    Very recently we have also begun to see varieties with similar concepts, though not yet widely established.
    KIASAGI・黄浅黄
    KIGOSHIKI・黄五色
    KISHOWA（KIMISHIGURE）・黄昭和（黄美しぐれ）

    As for the KIYAMATONISHIKI you mentioned about, there are orange and yellow types of HARIWAKE, so it is possible to breed them but I have not seen it so far.
    One of the reasons that may be preventing the emergence of this variety is the fact that YAMOTONISHKI itself is not actively bred due to its low emergence and establishment rate and low profitability.
    Is this not why professional breeders are reluctant?

    If that is the case, then I would encourage amateur breeders, should any be interested, to boldly venture into uncharted territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki Atsumi View Post
    Could this be a juvenile KIRIN that WADA KOI FARM is diligently breeding?
    You could be right, but I've never seen a bowl full of just bright yellow ones before, normally some are more orange.

    They are being sold by Kitsu Koi and advertised on their facebook page, but they do not mention the breeder or variety.

    There is one in the bowl that does look like a proper Wada Kirin, the rest are not of the highest quality and some are Ginrin, others are Doitsu and I haven't seen Doitsu or Ginrin Kirin before.

    There's 3 or 4 videos of them on their Facebook Page:

    https://www.facebook.com/KitsuKoi/
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  11. 13-11-2025, 07:43 PM #7
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    I really like the doitsu one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alburglar View Post
    I really like the doitsu one.
    Going to look at them on Wednesday
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  15. 14-11-2025, 09:56 AM #9
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    I really like the yellow ( ki ) koi they allways appeal to me.
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  17. 14-11-2025, 01:40 PM #10
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    HIKARI UTSURI KOI

    On the other hand, KINSHOWA, which is yellow-based


    or KINKIUTSURI, which is based on MUJKASHIOGON,


    has been around for a long time and is not distinguished by a name.
    It is rather a rare, old-fashioned species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedstone View Post
    Going to look at them on Wednesday
    Would be interested to know what variety and breeder they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Would be interested to know what variety and breeder they are.
    Have bought one, details to follow Saturday when i collect it
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  22. 20-11-2025, 04:38 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedstone View Post
    Have bought one, details to follow Saturday when i collect it
    Roll on Saturday.... I want to know more and see Pics..... Good pics!
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    2.jpg1.jpg3.jpg5.jpg6C.jpg
    Also got this Showa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedstone View Post
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    Also got this Showa

    Nice, decent body on the Showa, and nice base pattern. Sumi in the right places will make this fish, and so far it only looks to be on the whiteground which is a good start.

    What variety and breeder is the first one with the yellow and black?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Nice, decent body on the Showa, and nice base pattern. Sumi in the right places will make this fish, and so far it only looks to be on the whiteground which is a good start.

    What variety and breeder is the first one with the yellow and black?
    Ki Yamatonishiki bred by Yamazaki, got from Kitsu Koi
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  30. 24-11-2025, 10:54 AM #17
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    That Showa is a beaut, be interesting to see how it matures
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  32. 24-11-2025, 10:55 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedstone View Post
    Ki Yamatonishiki bred by Yamazaki, got from Kitsu Koi
    I think normally it is split into 2 separate words, like Yamato Nishiki, and typically a Sanke based Koi.

    Somewhat beyond my knowledge as to where the name comes from or exactly what Koi it refers to, but google images show many different variations:

    https://www.google.com/search?sca_es...ih=968&dpr=1.1


    One of the Koi in your original bowl photo did look like a Kirin, but the rest were hard to identify.
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