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    Where to Oxygen in Bournemouth?

    Hi,

    I plan to transport koi in a bag with oxygen, but can't find where to buy oxygen in a can, so I could pack it myself. There are some on amazon but reviews are very suspicious, people claim its just air etc. I won't be able to double check..

    Maybe someone can recommend a brand or a company where I could buy 15-20 L?

    Thank you!



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    If your not traveling far, you could use air from a air pump. I don't know for a fact, if true! But I've a few people stated it's air in the can and not oxygen. I've even travel 30 mins. With a Fish in a bag blown up from the air in my lungs!

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    The trip will last for a minimum of 14 hours and most likely I need to cover up to 24 hours of life support for a fish in case of delays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascha View Post
    The trip will last for a minimum of 14 hours and most likely I need to cover up to 24 hours of life support for a fish in case of delays.
    Oh, not sure I would use the can's then. Can you hire one of those Diver's pony bottles?

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    A number of serious hobbyists use bottles from hobbyweld - not cheap for a one off though:

    https://hobbyweld.co.uk/products/oxygen/


    Queni Koi used to sell small bottles, enough to do one bag, but I can't find it on their website right now - maybe worth following up to see if they have any.

    I bought some off Amazon once, it was rubbish, hardly any pressure in the can and was getting nowhere with it, so I decided to breathe it in, and I didn't notice any difference to normal air, no dizziness or anything, so I was quite suspicous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog1 View Post
    Oh, not sure I would use the can's then. Can you hire one of those Diver's pony bottles?
    I don't know anything like this around. Can't find online. People sell used ones but its expensive and I don't know who would refill it with pure oxygen.

    Quote Originally Posted by [COLOR=#333333
    A number of serious hobbyists use bottles from hobbyweld - not cheap for a one off though:[/COLOR]

    https://hobbyweld.co.uk/products/oxygen/

    Queni Koi used to sell small bottles, enough to do one bag, but I can't find it on their website right now - maybe worth following up to see if they have any.
    I'm looking at welding oxygen at the moment. Apparently you can buy for £30 "Oxyturbo Oxygen Gas Cylinder 950ml Bottle". No clue how many of them needed for 1 bag and how to handle them..


    Quote Originally Posted by [COLOR=#333333
    I bought some off Amazon once, it was rubbish, hardly any pressure in the can and was getting nowhere with it, so I decided to breathe it in, and I didn't notice any difference to normal air, no dizziness or anything, so I was quite suspicous.[/COLOR]
    Exactly, this sort of reviews are very repulsive.

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    Have you tried asking a local dealer if you could take it to them when you start your journey for them to fill the bag with oxygen for a nominal charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manky Sanke View Post
    Have you tried asking a local dealer if you could take it to them when you start your journey for them to fill the bag with oxygen for a nominal charge?


    Few days ago we went to a local Maidenhead aquatics shop to get transport bags and buy oxygen, but the girl there said they don't sell oxygen and we should use a battery powered air pump etc. I kind of left confused and checked this idea.

    I found this pump https://www.allpondsolutions.co.uk/products/120-l-h-battery-backup-air-pump Around 10 hours on battery and 5v Power Adaptor with USB connection, so it could be powered from the car.
    But I don't know if that would be enough for one fish 13”? Will it cause serious fluctuations in water temperature depending on temperatures in the car? In addition the fish may damage itself if it hits the air stones. I will have to leave it unattended during the 2 hour ferry crossing. Can I even leave it on during the ferry? It is also apparently very noisy according to reviews, and we have a small car and more other nervous animals. Too many questions.

    I’ve sent requests to our local “BJ's Japanese Koi”, “New Forest Koi” and to Queni Koi, let's see what they say.
    I still have plenty of time to find a solution, but I don't even know if the trip will start during the opening times of any of the shops. Would be nice to have a spare can too.

    I didn’t expect it would be so hard to get some oxygen

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    That kind of air pump is suitable for supplying aeration to a lidded transport vat and won't allow temperature variations if the car heater isn't on and with a good flow of fresh air through the air vents

    I don't have personal experience of them but, according to the sales blurb, it will run continuously from a 5 volt supply then run on the internal battery for ten hours after that. So, during the journey, you could run it from the USB jack in the car or from a 5 volt adapter plugged in to the cigarette lighter socket then leave it running on its battery on the ferry when the car supply is turned off.

    I wouldn't worry about the fish injuring itself on the air stone if the transport vat has a zipped lid and is filled to near overflowing so as to prevent the water sloshing about. These lids aren't meant to be totally leakproof because there must be some way that air can get out while it's being aerated so some water will leak but a polythene sheet under the vat, raised at the edges, will contain a few litres of spillage during the journey.



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    Have you thought about the Hailea cp 60?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manky Sanke View Post
    That kind of air pump is suitable....
    Thank you, so the idea is livable. I could fill the bag with water to the top of the box. At least I have a back up plan. There are less noisy air pumps for a similar price.

    I would still prefer oxygen. So far no koi dealer responded to me. I plan to visit some shops in person, maybe will be more productive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog1 View Post
    Have you thought about the Hailea cp 60?

    Looks actually really good as a permanent pump for a pond. I only have one fish at the moment, so it would be an overkill in power. Also, only 8 hours on battery and can't use car power supply.
    Last edited by Mascha; 19-09-2024 at 10:13 PM.

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    So New Forest Koi kindly offered to fill my bag with oxygen, if the fish is bagged and ready to go. Noone else responded

    I may still get a small air pump, in case I mess up the bagging.


    P.S. my fibreglass pond is now for sale on gumtree and facebook.

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