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    Flying Sanke and Bacto Plus Ohmizu Clay



    What an afternoon. Working from home and thought whilst I was about Iíd dose with the above. If any of you were following my parasite issues, youíll know that Paddy kindly gave me some Lincolnshire Fish Health Pond Detox Formula just to make sure there were no heavy metals etc I couldnít test for.

    On the grounds everything has settled down and Iím still waiting for my pond detox formula, I thought Iíd add some of this, figuring clay binders are all much of a muchness in reality.

    My water is hard as liquid rock, so I went in 70% dose rather than the full dose. I mixed in a jar and added over 10 mins. As I crossed the patio to head back to the house, my 36cm Sanke flew at me at head height, clear over my 350mm high jump guards and landed on the patio. Thanks fully I was there and got him back in.

    Then two Kohakuís newly launched themselves out of the pond and brained themselves on the jump guards. Other fish listing at the surface as per the below picture.

    PP treatment didnít give such a drastic adverse reaction!! I phoned the dealer I purchased from - who was very helpful - and he says heís had no reported issues and uses it on his display ponds.

    Everything has calmed down now, but Iíve never seen such a reaction in fish. Even heavy medication in tropical tanks as a last ditch Ďkill or cureí.

    Anyone else ever had any issues? Really surprised me, especially at 70% recommended dosage (which I have since quadruple checked!!)





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    Hope the Sanke will be ok.

    I use clay weekly throughout the year. Never had the sort of issue you describe Tom. On one occasion a couple of small tosai got a little stressed, dashing about and gasping at the surface. It was short lived though and only happened that one time. I think that was with NT labs Clay. At the moment I'm dosing weekly with Breeders Secret, no plans to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g mac View Post
    Hope the Sanke will be ok.

    I use clay weekly throughout the year. Never had the sort of issue you describe Tom. On one occasion a couple of small tosai got a little stressed, dashing about and gasping at the surface. It was short lived though and only happened that one time. I think that was with NT labs Clay. At the moment I'm dosing weekly with Breeders Secret, no plans to change.
    Thanks - I hope so too. Trouble is the water is still clouded and I canít see at the moment.

    I think Iíll give it another go in a weeks time but knock it back to 40% or 50% dose and see if that helps. If not I wonít be using that particular one again.

    Maybe it was just gill irritation, but adding it slowly should have helped.


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    My best guess would be gill irritation. When fishing you see carp jumping out of the water to clear their gills of the sediment from the lake bed. Presumably this is what your koi were doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twhitenosugar View Post
    My best guess would be gill irritation. When fishing you see carp jumping out of the water to clear their gills of the sediment from the lake bed. Presumably this is what your koi were doing?

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    I think so. Or they were trying to take off, because they were really going for it!


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    Wow, havnt heard of that one Tom.
    Could it be a reaction to another treatment you put in.

    How are they now Tom besides the jumping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Wow, havnt heard of that one Tom.
    Could it be a reaction to another treatment you put in.

    How are they now Tom besides the jumping?
    Really well thanks John. Eating like pigs and generally looking very well. You wouldnít believe the change in that little tancho - when heís next at the surface or window Iíll send you a picture.

    You and Paddy really saved my bacon. Much appreciated


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    Glad they are ok now Tom,had a few probs with my own with costia and flukes.
    Sorted the costia ok now flukes will have to wait as off to Portugal on Thursday.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Glad they are ok now Tom,had a few probs with my own with costia and flukes.
    Sorted the costia ok now flukes will have to wait as off to Portugal on Thursday.
    Good luck John. If you need anything doing whilst youíre away youíve got my number, happy to help Flying Sanke and Bacto Plus Ohmizu Clay


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